I’m gay.
My dad is not pleased with this fact. Completely homophobic.
Half the time his homophobia doesn’t even make sense.
>Fishing show on TV in the living room
>Watching it with mom and dad
>Mom: "I don’t have the patience for that kind of stuff
>Me: “It doesn’t feel like too long when you’re out there”
>Dad: “Time flies when you’re a removed.”
>Go to my room
It’s getting ridiculous. He goes out of his way to respond to everything I do by calling me a removed.
Story about my southern grandparents, but grandad in particular.
So my grandparents born in the 19 teens in rural Alabama. They said the n-word with a hard r until the day they died. But grandma had a friend named Loraine. Loraine’s husband worked at the same steel mill as grandpa. They also had a kid same age and school as my uncle named Wayne.
Wayne always came to holidays at our house. He was flamboyant to say the least, but a super nice guy. When Wayne wasn’t around I’d hear grandma talk about him occasionally. She’d say things like “being gay isn’t a choice, because you could tell Wayne was different when he was too little to know what gay was”.
Fast forward and grandpa dies. After the service the family is standing around with grandma. Wayne walks up and tells grandma. “I wish grandpa had been my dad. My dad hated me for being gay, but grandpa always treated me like all the other kids”.
Wayne sent my grandma flowers every excuse he got till the day she died.
I’ve always felt like if those 2 old school bigots could figure out that gay isn’t a choice. Why can’t the rest of the world?
Well fortunately for your grandparents it wasn’t yet time for ones bigotry and ignorance to be worn like a badge of honor as is tradition today so they weren’t vilified for trying to think of Wayne as a human.
I dunno about anyone else, but this greentext has always been one of my favorites. It perfectly describes my family’s childish, belligerent dialogue on homosexuality, so I feel for anon. Hopefully he managed to get out.
Anon’s father is gay.
Not every homophobe is closeted/repressed and gay.
Many are just bigoted shitheads.
It’s much funnier to accuse them of being closeted as it drives them nuts.
But this comment is not going to be seen by them.
I see this type of comment on almost every post like this. It suggests the idea that gay people are the cause of their own persecution. Because if only repressed gay people hate gays who are out and public about it then no straight people are responsible for homophobia.
Thanks.
I think a big thing that is missed is that when it’s a case of “homophobic politician turns out to be banging dudes nightly” you need to compartmentalise the two problems - stupid homophobia, and the much more specific “this politician and their political party are very obviously not trying to govern in good faith and instead will say literally anything for power”. Both are bad. The first one is a thing that will take a century or two to die away mostly and even then will pop up sometimes if we get complacent.
The second one is the thing that we might be able to fix, like, on a four year cycle.
The second one is the thing that we might be able to fix, like, on a four year cycle.
You are assuming that everyone here is from the USA, they are not.
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I am not from the USA.
Then again in my country “Senator Buttkis ® arrested for soliciting young men” isn’t a thing. So I’m giving a specific example from specific place. And saying “like” that.
I haven’t seen this put this way before but it’s a great point.
You’re interpreting too much into it. It’s just a “NO U!” response.
And I would interpret it differently: society is so bad that it makes people hate themselves for who they are.
But it also makes the oppression of queers their own fault…
The most vocal homophobes probably aren’t mostly a 0 on the Kinsey scale even if they’re heterosexual given 0s probably are not the majority. Especially the kind who act like it’s something that’s okay if you hide it or think you can just turn it off, as described in OP’s case.
Calling a 1 “gay” is obviously misleading, but from the perspective of many homophobes those occasional thoughts are problematic.
Habeeb it
secret gay fishing trips = what fish? Oh yeah, we caught a bunch and they were huge
I wish I were gayer so I could use the “time flies” line.
Just drop that line as your catchphrase before tapdancing out of the room. It’d be incredible. :)
Had me rolling though. That’s so fucking out of pocket.
I know, this is a horrible thing to go through but at the same time my eyes are watering from laughing so hard.
Fake and gay.
Fake, Anon is Homo
Gay, Anon is Gay.
am i do this rite guys?
If anyone brings tendiesbot to lemmy I will commit acts.
Posts like this make me glad I’m already at the stage in my life where I can afford living separately from my family so I just don’t give a shit about what they think
Exactly why I never came out to my parents. I think they knew, since my stepfather would semi regularly tell me that if I came out as gay he would kick me out of the house.
Jokes on him, he’s dead now and I’m still bisexual.
He didn’t say he’d kick you out for coming out as Bi though. Legal loophole.
See, this is actually one of the rare times when violence is the answer.
One good kick to the nuts, and a “you ever fuck with me again, you’ll sing soprano”, and it’s going to back the guy down. It doesn’t have to even be super aggro, just casually roll up and do it, then say it calmly, and walk away.
Yeah, then you’re homeless.
And you’ve also given your homophobic dad more reason to be homophobic
More?
This is the most organic “what do you mean ‘you people’” I’ve ever seen.
Oppressed minorities are not required to be on their very best behavior in order to avoid being oppressed further. 🙄
The guy could be a serial killer and the dad would still be wrong for saying that.
Escalating to violence is never acceptable. I really don’t get what you’re trying to say.
Violence is definitely acceptable in some situations, just not this one. Gay and traumatized is better than gay, traumatized, homeless, and possibly injured. Morality doesn’t dictate consequences.
Yes, assaulting people always works wonders.
No, but in very narrow circumstances, controlled violence to back down continued abuse does work wonders.
People will only bully and abuse people they think they can get away with it towards. I’m those cases, controlled violence is an effective tool because it draws a firm boundary and expresses the consequences for crossing it.
Someone behaving like the “dad” in the story posted is only doing it because they think they can get away with it. That kind of person is very likely to back the fuck off when the son backs them the fuck off. Remember, they’re already using the threat of violence in the posted scenario. The only realistic response to a threat of violence, when outside assistance via legal recourse isn’t available, is shutting them the fuck down hard and fast.
