• uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    Fractional BAB wins again. I like D&D 5 just fine but for stuff like multi-classing and creating really complex builds D&D 3.5 is the superior system.

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    11 months ago

    Just saying, the cantrip gets more powerful but you just get one. I would prefer smaller cantrips but more of them like eldritch blast. So more sword swing is decent

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    11 months ago

    I usually offer players with multiple instances of extra attack a +1 to their to hit, and Im considering offering +1 crit range as well. This is a real sticking point to me in 5e, the lack of viable build variety.

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        I mean, their +1 would stack. Crit range expansion was a big part of the game in 3.x. That game had you crit confirmation, and 5e makes it easy to get advantage, but I literally do not care.

        Champion is also a badly designed class, it could have had maneuvers for a teensy bit of complexity, but they needed a “newb” subclass, paving the way for conceptually elemental subclasses with no mechanical complexity at all (note that the wizard didn’t get hit with any of this).

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    @Golett03 hot take: cantrips ruined spellcasting. Spells should take spell slots unless they are a ritual or granted by a magic item. If I could go back in time and make cantrips not a thing, I would

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      11 months ago

      Hot take: cantrips are fun and give new players exciting stuff to do and there’s absolutely nothing even remotely fun at all about keeping track of how many casts you have.

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      11 months ago

      I think some very basic things, like prestidigitation, are fine. Basically magical effects that a child might do by accident but controlled through experience. Damaging spells? Probably not. Essentially, if it adds flavor to knowing how to manipulate magic, fine. If it grants power, it’s probably not a good contrip.

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        @Cethin pretty much every centripetal worth taking either deals damage, give combat advantages, or has a very useful effect like Light.

        Essentially my hot take is that even Prestidigitation and Light should be a 1st level spell. Especially Light.

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          Totally agree light and damage spells should be.

          Prestidigitation like effects I think are probably actually good to just let every spell caster (or at least wizards and probably sorcerers and warlocks) have. Things that don’t do anything critical, just give flavor that they understand how to control the weave. Just like a fighter probably has better control of their body and can do extra flourishes, a spellcaster can do minor flourishes of the weave. Prestidigitation might still be more powerful than what I have in mind even, but the idea is about right. Basically they’re able to create sparks, budge things, create a tiny bit of wind, or other very minor effects without expending much energy. Nothing actually useful to do anything except to say they can do things.

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    Not going to lie, I’m already taking notes. I like that in general, if you make the right choices, it’s easy to make even wizards feel a lot less squishy, which would make me feel a lot more comfortable not pulling punches in my game. One of my favorite changes so far is the wild shape recharge on short rest for druids.

    It’s gotten me thinking about how to fix some other broken classes again, like making Ranger not fucking suck, and fixing the MADness of Barbarian. Fight me IRL, having the Barb’s unarmored defense dependent on dex instead of strength is dumb as hell when the barbarian is clearly a STR/CON class, that would be like having the Monk’s unarmored defense being dependent on Constitution. “So, what, Barbarians should just deflect attacks by flexing extra hard?” Yes.

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      Ummm… Barbarian Unarmored Defense is based off Con, not Dex. They just didn’t take away the default Dex bonus to AC that every class in the game gets. They shrug off damage by having a high Con. Barbarians are pretty good as it is, if you let them completely dump Dex and give AC from Str, they would be broken AF… 18 AC at level 1 with a shield under point buy system, and immediate jump to 20 AC at level 4, with no reduction in damage output at all. Possible to be 20 AC at level 1 literally completely naked (no shield) with rolled stats, and 18 isn’t even entirely unlikely…

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    I’m curious as to how quickly BG3 rule changes will start making their way into tabletop house rules and 3rd party supplements.

    My guess is pretty quickly, if my own group is any worthwhile measurement.

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        then they added crit fails to skill checks

        Do you know how many times that has pissed me off? Especially on my rogue where even a 1 would have opened the damn lock.

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          Yeah, as DM I’ve always house ruled that it didn’t make sense for a character to fail at the thing they’re the best at.

          Though I have been known to interpret a natural 1 as a crazy external force - like an earthquake - and have them reroll at -10.

          Makes it even more fun when they succeed anyway.

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        [nervous sweating] I’ve always run my game with crit fail skill checks. That’s normal.

        Isn’t it?

        Isn’t it?

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          It’s the second shittiest common house rule, assuming you mean that if someone with a +15 bonus rolls a nat 1 on a DC 5 check, they automatically fail (possibly with a worse effect than if someone with a -1 rolled a 2).

          On the other hand, there are other ways to have crit fails on skill checks that are much more palatable, like:

          • having a slightly worse effect when someone rolls a nat 1 and would have failed anyway
          • having a worse effect when someone’s total is 1 or lower
          • having a worse effect when rolls are failed by certain thresholds, like by 10 or more (potentially, but not necessarily, only when the roll was a nat 1)

          (The worst common house rule, btw, is crit miss tables for additional effects beyond an automatic miss when you roll a 1 on an attack roll.)

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            If a 1 is not a fail, why do you roll at all ? I mean if the DC is 5 and you have +15, your DM should just not make you roll (* you pass automatically). So a 1 should always be a fail.

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              The DM doesn’t necessarily have your modifiers memorized and asking what they are every time slows down play. The DM also likely doesn’t want to share the DC. The easiest fair solution is to always ask for a roll (assuming it’s possible, generically, to succeed or fail) and to then consider passes to be passes. If you only avoid asking for a roll when you know the player will make it, then you’re likely to be biased toward the players whose characters you’re more familiar with.

              So a 1 should always be a fail.

              RAW this is not the case. From the DMG:

              Rolling a 20 or a 1 on an ability check or a saving throw doesn’t normally have any special effect. However, you can choose to take such an exceptional roll into account when adjudicating the outcome. It’s up to you to determine how this manifests in the game.

              My experience with having nat 1s being auto fails and is that this results in characters who are “erratically … tragically incompetent” as well as taking away player agency (Nick Brown on rpg.stackechange explained this well). Maybe you and your players like a game like that, but I certainly don’t.

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                If the DM doesn’t know the stat your character has the highest in and uses all the time, they have an awful memory and shouldn’t really DM.

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    meanwhile in legally distinct dragon game: Hmm yes I will dip fighter for access to a lv 4 reaction strike on every single character i make.

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      Also in legally distinct dragon game: Watch in amazement as I use my staff/dagger/rapier as a shield!

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        Martial hybrids are fun and good in other systems. In D&D 3e, for example, its the complete opposite situation; martials can pick up cool tricks like dual wielding while progressing their accuracy and health, whereas casters lose a level of spell progression and gain a second track of spell progression thats about as strong as a lv 1 character