• zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    The problem here is that we all lose. They ignored the warnings about climate change but now we all suffer the effects of it.

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      The climate hasn’t changed, the humans have changed.

      We had electric cars over 100 years ago, and surprise surprise, those things didn’t explode into hellfire.

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          The climate is only changing because the humans are rapidly changing.

          Name me one other species that refines and burns gasoline, diesel, etc…

          If humans had never interfered, the climate would be much more stable.

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          Good, my confusing comment got you to thinking about these sort of things…

          Now reverse my comment to back before the industrial/oil age, if humans hadn’t mucked so much with nature, we wouldn’t be anywhere near this predicament we seem to be in today…

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              My thoughts exactly. The first two comments directly contradict each other immediately. “The climate isn’t changing” … “the climate is only changing because of humans”

              I think they think this is some deep and profound personal insight that the rest of us just can’t comprehend.

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            Feels like you are going to propose developing a time machine instead of just doing literally anything else about it.

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              Nobody has to develop a time machine to learn knowledge of the past, they’re called books.

              Humans successfully lived over 100,000 years without massive industry or vehicles or anything like that.

              Best invention I’ve seen in the past 200 years is the bicycle. Try riding one instead of driving a car once in a while, or God forbid, try walking every now and then.

              Then maybe you’ll be making a difference.

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                Nobody has to develop a time machine to learn knowledge of the past, they’re called books.

                Humans successfully lived over 100,000 years without massive industry or vehicles or anything like that.

                Best invention I’ve seen in the past 200 years is the bicycle. Try riding one instead of driving a car once in a while, or God forbid, try walking every now and then.

                Then maybe you’ll be making a difference.

                Why are you deleting your comments? Cowardice getting the better of you?

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                  If you’d like to have a civilized discussion, that’s cool.

                  I don’t think the climate would be changing all that much if humans had never interfered. We humans are our own problem. We created this energy consumption issue, no other creatures on the planet do that or even seem to need that.

                  So, if human revert to monke, maybe the world can heal itself…

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                  I’d rather not argue with folks, plain and simple. I deleted my comments because I have nothing more to say.

                  You have a good day stranger.

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            Good, my confusing comment got you to thinking about these sort of things…

            Now reverse my comment to back before the industrial/oil age, if humans hadn’t mucked so much with nature, we wouldn’t be anywhere near this predicament we seem to be in today…

            You dropped this.

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        The climate hasn’t changed, the humans have changed.

        We had electric cars over 100 years ago, and surprise surprise, those things didn’t explode into hellfire.

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          Congratulations, you express a deliberate point to resurrect an argument which I already dropped and deleted.

          No joke though, lead acid batteries don’t explode like lithium ion batteries. Hell I’ve never seen one explode in my life.

          How is this new tech safe in any way? They gotta clear out 50+ feet away from a burning lithium ion powered vehicle.

          Even apartment complexes don’t allow electric bicycles inside, they don’t want their complex burning down ya know.

          Back to my OG point, we humans created these dangerous chemicals. Maybe we should analyze ourselves and realize we are the problem.

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            I’d rather not argue with folks, plain and simple. I deleted my comments because I have nothing more to say.

            I thought this was your point, now go delete these comments too since we already know you don’t actually value anything you say.

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              You troll much?

              I don’t even have a car, done put over 50k miles on my bicycle, and worn through countless pairs of shoes in my day.

              You can drop this ‘argument’ any time you want.

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                You stupid much? You’re still going. Why would I drop an argument you said you were leaving? Jog on sunshine, I’m happy to stick around and berate you for your wilful stupidity.

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                  Will you just shut the F up? I still can’t figure out if I’m signed into Lemmy or not…

                  This is literally a Jerboa Lemmy test message.

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                    Will you? You said you would like 4 messages back, I’m just wondering how long you’ll stupidly keep replying like the moron you are.