• blazeknave@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Making a guess here… Hamas has been democratically elected since… 2006?.. assume cognitive memory and tribal biases really start becoming rigid around 7 years old… anyone under 24 has only known the message of hamas’ government and lived under the gaslighting. I’d assume the youth are pretty onboard, no?

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      11 months ago

      Hamas was democratically elected once with 45% of the vote, then stopped holding elections.

      A lot of olive trees grow in Palestine. The symbol of peace originated from the culture of Palestinians. Meanwhile, Israelis burn olive farmers’ trees in land they continue to steal today (but we don’t call it stealing, we call it “settling”)

      So, given that a majority of Palestinians didn’t vote for Hamas, and the origins of the culture are rooted in peace anyways, I don’t think it’s fair to suggest most of those minors are on board with Hamas. Not to suggest many aren’t radicalized, but I’m honestly surprised more than 45% wouldn’t vote for Hamas considering how many generations of people are living in an open air prison.

      Israel is shutting off all power, food, medicine, water, and bombing a city about the population of Los Angeles, but 4x denser, and mostly minors. This operation will take months if not years. This is an insane war crime at a scale we haven’t seen since world war 2

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        11 months ago

        A lot of olive trees grow in Palestine. The symbol of peace originated from the culture of Palestinians.

        Owch, now that’s bullshit. First, when this particular symbol came into use, there was no such thing as Palestinians, the whole area was Jewish, Phoenician etc. Second, it’s Greek.

        I’ve said many times what I think of Israelis, but that’s genocidal (as in whitewashing) rhetoric right here.

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          11 months ago

          Look it up, you don’t have to take my word for it

          Edit: also, you’re just going to ignore the part of Israel committing one of the worst war crimes of the century?

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            11 months ago

            Look it up, you don’t have to take my word for it

            There’s nothing but your word (or anything just as credible) for it.

            Edit: also, you’re just going to ignore the part of Israel committing one of the worst war crimes of the century?

            Yeah, since that’s not what I’m answering to.

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        11 months ago

        Okay. That was a generation ago. My point was that it’s all the people have known. If you’re saying they’ve only consolidated power since, you’re validating my point.

        And none of the other responses have to do with my comment.

        Also fwiw it’s neither Palestinian nor Greek. It’s from the story of Noah. The bird brought back an olive branch having found land, and it became the symbol of the end of the conflict, peace.