• DessertStorms@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Many people like to say that if they had a time machine they would go back and kill Hitler or some other valiant act of heroism that would prevent the death of millions.

    Yet when faced with the real possibility of killing (or even just properly holding accountable - removal from society, redistribution of resources of) an individual now, who is already responsible for millions of deaths by virtue of withholding resources alone, never mind the active oppression and exploitation of billions that go in to maintaining the system that allows them their power, people suddenly become squeamish.

    But not even at the idea of them doing it, but at the idea of anyone doing it (to the point of actively opposing it), and that’s just so fucking frustrating, that people can’t see the glaringly obvious dictators “of tomorrow”, who already literally control everything and are actively getting away with a lot shit directly out of the fascist playbook today, how anyone can still deny it to themselves just blows my mind.

    We’re never going to get a better future as long as so many people refuse to accept that we’re never going to be given it by those living the high life off of our backs.

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      The difference is that I can look up a moment in history when Hitler was vulnerable and then kill him with zero consequences.

      There would be a lot of consequences for killing anyone today, and it’d be really hard to kill anyone that matters.

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        That begets the question, why do you feel okay with murder when there are no consequences?

        Were you to find yourself in such a situation with say the CEO of Nestle or Nike, or Rupert Murdoch, or whomever you fancy, where you suddenly realize you have an opportunity to murder that person without consequence, would you do so?

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          I’d prefer they be sent to work camps to pay for their crimes - execution is a waste of resources

          But if you’re talking about a situation where “press this magic button an Elon Musk dies” well~

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            It was a rhetorical question meant to prompt you into a moral or philosophical justification.

            But for the record, I more or less agree with your position.

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              Okay, but like, I don’t want to outright say it because I’m pretty sure the people I hate are watching for that sort of thing 😅

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      Not that I disagree but it’s absolutely fucking exhausting to come into the comment sections of a post like this and find a comment basically dropping a prepared lecture on something tangentially related because you saw a highly upvoted post involving something capitalism-adjacent and decided to set up your soapbox.

      Like, could you at least try to act like the comment is actually in response to the content of the post. Slip one line in there about “ads” or “night sky” or something, anything, that makes it sound like you’re genuinely responding to the post and not just deploying the speech you had in your back pocket.

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      Not to take away from anything you just said, but it’s a different thing to claim you would do something in an impossible and hypothetical scenario, than to name a currently powerful person and say you’d make them dead if you could.

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      It’s like having a mouse squirming in a trap and knowing it must be hit and put out of its’ misery but all your muscles amount to nothing while looking at it’s tiny frame. Can’t do it, bro, just can’t do it.