• JPAKx4@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Ah yes, the classic and completely justified DRPK supporter. Lemme ask you this, does the US doing something bad nullify the wrongdoings of another country/regime?

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Any supposed wrongdoing of the DPRK pales in comparison to what the USA did to the Korean people. Nine million Korean corpses lay at the feet of American imperialism, a number that continues to grow due to continued sanctions, spying, military exercises and aggression. The alleged wrongdoings of the DPRK’s entire history do not even amount to the misery inflected by a single hour of American empire.

      I’m not a coward who feels the need to avoid taking stances. I’m not a coward who finds moral equivalence in imperialism and defense against imperialism. The fact that the DPRK exists at all in such a context of overt hostility should be regarded as a supreme achievement. The DPRK manages to still stand, despite its hardships and this is a testament to the resilience of the Korean people and the power of socialism.

      • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        Seriously like. Even the absolute worst dubious, unproven accusations of what the DPRK’s “Crimes” are pale in comparison to what the US and allies did to them. And thats just their crimes against Korea.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Lemme ask you this, does the US doing something bad nullify the wrongdoings of another country/regime?

      When they’re in the process or about to cause a humanitarian disaster in said country, yes.

      Saddam’s regime was terrible, however sanctions, plus destroying vital infrastructure such as water treatment facilities and power plants during war were infinitely worse. The sanctions on the DPRK that have been going on since 1950 compounded the nightmare of destroying all the infrastructure in the country and the killing of 20% of the population and are still ongoing.

      • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        cake
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        Yankees really lived through Afghanistan and Iraq and learned about Vietnam and still think they are being given accurate narratives of state enemies now. I had hoped by now we might see even the most rudimentary skepticism of US media but alas.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      What wrongdoings? Who has North Korea ever invaded?

      South Korea doesn’t count, you can’t invade yourself

      In the American Civil War the North didn’t invade the South either and in both cases the North was clearly in the right

      • pingveno@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        10 months ago

        South Korea doesn’t count, you can’t invade yourself

        North Korea and South Korea were separate entities following the surrender of Imperial Japan, with the North administered by the Soviets and the South administered by the US. North Korea 100% invaded South Korea, both with troops and supporting insurgency groups.

          • pingveno@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            9 months ago

            My point was more this. In the American Civil War, the South was a breakaway region. In the Korean War, the North and South were separate countries with separate governments. The government of the North invaded the South. Period.

            Before this gets brought up, the governments of both countries were authoritarian turds.

            • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              9 months ago

              The US created south korea out of thin air at the end of WWII, literally just drawing a line on a map.

              Then they both held elections. The south’s election was rigged by the US, who used their sway at the UN (the USSR was boycotting at the time and PRC still hadn’t been accepted) to get South Korea’s puppet state recognized as the gov’t of all Korea, including the parts that didn’t even have the US’s sham elections. As preparation to invade the north, the US purged any non-compliant elements from the gov’t (going so far as to put compradors who’d worked for Japan during occupation in high ranking positions) and carried out massacres of elements likely to side with communists (such as rural villages that lead communal lifestyles).

              The north saw America was coming for them and the longer they waited, the worse position they’d be in.

            • Well you’re a dumbass if you can’t understand this lol. What the fuck does the American Civil War have to do with this? Nobody forced the slavers to make a separate country. Meanwhile the US forced the south of Korea to set up a government and refuse any discussion with the rest of Korea. You can define invasion however you want but it’s nonsense to define how you’re trying other “governments tm” being how you define it

        • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          They were not though, neither the communists nor the Japanese collaborators believed the line was a legitimate or permanent division of the country. The plan was always reunification and no Korean party accepted the terms you’re talking about.

          Ironically there was an independent government emerging in the wake of the collapse of Japan but the US occupation outlawed it when they came in.

          • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            The People’s Republic of Korea was basically the Korean government in exile during World War II. I think they merged into the DPRK after the US refused to let them take control of South Korea, even though they were the legitimate government of Korea.