In the spirit of being encouraged to speak my mind here’s a slight effort post:

Defederation does not do what you think it does.

The instance creator and admins are those with the ultimate power within their instance. The active users delegate them that power by interacting with their instance.

Defining “defederation” within the context of Lemmy as I understand it:

“the act of denying the ability for accounts within specific instances to interact with each other”

Anyone at this current time can create an account on most instances. One site on sh.itjust.works is defederated right now, but anyone here may also have an account there, who knows? The value comes from our activity and interaction within each instance.

Defederation is a narrow and a slippery slope because it doesn’t actually solve any problems. There are many instances which are doing things I think should be banned. I don’t interact with them. I don’t provide them with any value.

We uphold an inclusive enjoyable community here by being active. Individuals with malicious intent are ostracized naturally by an active community. Defederating entire instances does not stop bad actors, but an active strongwilled community does.

It’s not our responsibility to moderate other instances.

  • Potato@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Ah, I stand corrected. I did not realize users from defederated instances could still subscribe and view content new content. I thought updates ended at the time of defederation.

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        1 year ago

        I just subbed to something on Beehaw. Worked fine! Thanks for letting me know. I really thought defederation was a much more aggressive split.

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          1 year ago

          I can still see new posts and we you saw in another discussion where I provided a link for you, I replied in threads and my message was seen by people in the same instance as me.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, I know. :3

            I dunno how your app works, but does beehaw-gaming show up on your frontpage or do you have to manually look for it?

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                1 year ago

                owhat!

                but it says pending! i thought that means it won’t appear! ;3;

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                  1 year ago

                  And just to show that it works with more than just this one

                  But I’m considered subscribed to technology, it’s not pending

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                    1 year ago

                    would you recommend the app? i feel as if lemmy’s a bit too small for regular night-time browsing