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      I met few Polish fascists and I struggle to understand what happened in their lives that pushed them to follow that path.

      I asked one of them, who claimed to be a “classical fascicst”: “What was wrong with Hitler?” He said: “People say he killed too many people or something.” I asked him: “What is communism?” He could not even answer the question. Like, zero understanding of politics. A case of total brainworms. Heavily addicted to drugs, very sad person. The other one just talked total nonsense, about how communists want to count other people’s money, sniff coke in gulags and make races mix with each others. It was borderline terrifying to listen to him, total insanity.

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        Neofascism is closely correlated with having a petty bourgeois or (former) military background. The petite‐bourgeoisie is frequently in competition with ‘foreign’ businessowners, and Western military culture is notoriously toxic, so the transition to neofascism is the easiest to understand in those cases. If the neofascist is lower‐class, it is possible that pseudosocialist rhetoric won him over (made all the easier by anticommunist schooling, which has nothing meaningful to say about Fascism), or perhaps a neofascist clique befriended him. There are various possible reasons.

        who claimed to be a “classical fascicst”

        Which almost proves that he is clueless about politics. Classical fascism basically isn’t a thing anymore; the adventurer‐conqueror campaigns simply wouldn’t be practical in a world of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, which could swiftly put an end to a state’s ambitious quest for more spazio vitale. Neofascists are instead likelier to promote neocolonialism, because that’s what’s ‘in’ right now.

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          Another obvious thing liberals and adjacent don’t understand is that political ideologies don’t exist in the void, they are created and modified by the living society and will change to reflect that society. I would think this fact is absolutely obvious to anyone who licked even a small bit of history, but it’s apparently arcane knowledge and you need to be a marxist to know it…

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            Well, the “classical fascist” had a lot of books about “history”, but he seemed to think that history is just battles and tanks - zero understanding of actual politics or economics. Very incoherent world view, but it’s hard to expect anything more from a person that spends most of their time drugged out of their mind and with myriad psychological problems. I knew that person for many years and I know that deep inside it is just a very troubled, suicidal individual with mental issues, but I gave up on him and don’t even feel sorry for him anymore. I tried to get him out and spent a lot of time trying to reason with him, but he’s most likely just too deep in that shit to get out now.

            Many if not most people are idealists and they just don’t understand dialectical materialism.

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        Jesus fucking Christ, I’m so happy I didn’t end up like this. Seeing people do so, it just brings tears to my eyes. If it wasn’t too late, they could’ve been saved from such a painful fate, and yet they’ve gotten worse.

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          Yes, this is a painful fate. I will quote my other response, so you can read it too:

          Well, the “classical fascist” had a lot of books about “history”, but he seemed to think that history is just battles and tanks - zero understanding of actual politics or economics. Very incoherent world view, but it’s hard to expect anything more from a person that spends most of their time drugged out of their mind and with myriad psychological problems. I knew that person for many years and I know that deep inside it is just a very troubled, suicidal individual with mental issues, but I gave up on him and don’t even feel sorry for him anymore. I tried to get him out and spent a lot of time trying to reason with him, but he’s most likely just too deep in that shit to get out now.

          Many if not most people are idealists and they just don’t understand dialectical materialism.

          Yesterday I talked to another friend about people who we know that live in poverty and descent into depression, alcoholism, drug addictions and lose their sanity with time. They could be saved, but the ruling classes just don’t give a fuck. It’s a literal crime.