• Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    The issue for us in Europe won’t be Trump winning the US election, it could even be a good opportunity to strengthen EU and build a better EU defence and a real defence Industry (Look at how the debate on which country should have the leadership on the new Franco-German fighter-jet/Tank or whatever).

    The issue is that we do have a lot of politicians who are more or less pro-Russia. If Trump can win, so can Le-Pen, if Schröder was corrupted by Russia, how can we be sure that the next german Chancellor won’t be ? If Orbàn applies the same policies as Putin why wouldn’t him build a strong military alliance with Russia ?

    Let’s not blame the US for our lack of unity and defence policy

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      1 year ago

      Totally agree, we face a possible far right European Parliament next June. Brussels and the national governments refuse to fix the democratic deficit of the EU. If then Germany or France topple as well, Trump will be the least of our problems.

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      For a more united defence industry to make sense, you need a united foreign policy. Some things have happend, but with decision requiring all members to agree that becomes basicly impossible. Right now far right parties are in power in Italy, Poland, Hungary, Sweden and Finland and I propably forgot some. They are not going to agree to those kinds of decisions.

      Without such agreements, you end up without a plan for a military, which dictates the set up of weapons. Take tanks for example Leclerc is a much lighter tank then Leopard2 due to being designed to be transported to Africa to fight there. Obviously you can transport Leopard2s as well, but they are heavier, which does matter a lot less, as they were designed by a divided Germany, who only really thought about fighting a war against a Soviet invasion. So wihtout a common foreign policy there can be not common military police and no common defence industry.

      We really need treaty reform and if that means a small core EU agreeing on setting something like that up. Idk France, Germany, Spain and a number of other smaller countries. Depends on what is possible, but it needs to be done.