cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1119656

The !android@lemmy.world community on this instance thrived for a while and reached almost 19k subscribers very rapidly and it was very active.

Recently the Reddit mods of r/Android created another community with a few hundred members on another different instance where they are mods and that one was then astroturfed on c/android by a person seemingly unrelated to that community’s mods.

Apparently some discussions then took place between owners of both communities and the mods of !android@lemmy.world community then unilaterally closed the community, thus, according to their own sticky notice, succumbing to the flawed reasoning that the Reddit mods are “more experienced” and therefore the rightful representatives of an Android community.

I find this behavior sad and it just shouldn’t be allowed here for two reasons:

  • this sets the precedent for more Reddit mods to just come and claim “ownership” of communities by bullying existing ones into closing;
  • does not respect the almost 19k subscribers who didn’t even have a say in this, and especially those who had already expressed that they joined !android@lemmy.world because they did NOT want to be moderated by the old Reddit mods.

!android@lemmy.world needs to be reopened now and the mods removed since they expressed that they no longer want to moderate a community on lemmy.world.

  • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.worldOP
    11·
    1 year ago

    And !android@lemmy.world exists within lemdro.id, that’s also the beauty of the Fediverse. I don’t trust your instance (and I don’t have to even think about it, no offense) and I, and I’m sure many too but they weren’t even given a voice and you see nothing wrong with it, were already happy with our community here. You have no right to expect us to close it for you to grow your 3 days old one.

    • ijeff@lemdro.id
      2·
      1 year ago

      I’m sure more folks will chime in when they’re awake due to time zones, but the majority who are voting on their announcement seem to be supportive thus far?

      • trouser_mouse@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        I absolutely support you setting up a new community, but absolutely don’t support closing down the original one here on this instance - people should be able to decide which community they prefer. One will naturally grow to be the dominant one.

        .world are transparent about funding and approach, have clear policies in place. I can’t currently see any of that on .id, and the only thing I have to go off is posts you have made and the conversation around it.

        To me, it feels very disingenuous and currently your instance is not at all transparent and more importantly not GDPR compliant from what I can see - therefore, how can I trust it?

        • cole@lemdro.id
          3·
          1 year ago

          Hello, I’ve built software to be GDPR compliant before… so far as I can tell, NO Lemmy instance is GDPR compliant yet due to no way for the original server to delete user content from remote servers. Is this wrong?

          • trouser_mouse@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            I think you’re right. Some instances do what they can to be compliant, e.g. .world have various notices and wording in place but no cookie information and consent etc.

            The data and how it is transferred and processed and stored, along with deletion requests I have no idea how that is going to be compliant!

        • AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.worldOP
          03·
          1 year ago

          This, the dude is just giving us more reasons to completely break this shit and kick the current insecure mods out and forcibly reopen the community. I’ll remind everyone here of what the other mod said when asked about whether the 19k people have a say in this:

          I’m not aware of any charter that says I’m obligated in any form to offer the community a say in the decision. Should I have? Morally, there’s obviously an argument for yes. But did I have to, no. The choice was mine, and I made one. It’s your bad luck that I started the community, I suppose.

          A person saying this should be removed immediately. A mod saying this, and with ijeff@lemdro.id still supporting him since part of the deal is that this mod will become a mod on the new community of the foreign instance, should not be trusted anywhere, even on the new instance.