yeah i think vegans sometimes forget that veganism right now is still, in a global context, not a very prominent dietary habit and may not scale up particularly well or sustainably (especially since not every place currently has an abundance of food, much less vegan food). vegan actions, while ethically better, are also not inherently sustainable either–some vegan products are less sustainable than their animal-based counterparts for a variety of reasons.
Which products specifically? From what I can ascertain, the vast majority of vegan options are better for the environment for several reasons. Even though some vegan products are better than other vegan products (e.g., oats and soy beans over almonds), they all beat out their animal alternatives by a mile.
vegan options do not stop at food, please do not have a one-track brain here. many vegan product items have many well-described issues such as relying heavily on plastics that degrade poorly or contribute to environmental pollution, in addition to being less resilient than animal-based counterparts (and thus needing to be more frequently replaced).
Please do recognize that not every choice you make works for everyone - not even for all of us who are vegan! There are a lot of tradeoffs to be made in any modern life. For example, I value my time hiking year-round as a way to preserve my mental health. Wearing cotton in cold rainy weather is an invitation to hypothermia. So I opt for a mix of wool and synthetics, while trying to focus on buying high-quality clothing so it will last longer and lower my total lifetime impact. But there are no perfect answers.
Sounds like we’re generally in agreement. There are always edge cases. One in particular: there is no good alternative to goose down for ultralight winter backpacking gear. So maybe I shouldn’t indulge in winter backpacking. My own personal decision is to go with the most ethically-sourced down I can find, and to care for my gear well enough that it will ultimately outlast me.
Which is just agreeing with your “for the most part,” I guess. I expect you and I could sit down and happily enjoy a vegan meal together.
yeah i think vegans sometimes forget that veganism right now is still, in a global context, not a very prominent dietary habit and may not scale up particularly well or sustainably (especially since not every place currently has an abundance of food, much less vegan food). vegan actions, while ethically better, are also not inherently sustainable either–some vegan products are less sustainable than their animal-based counterparts for a variety of reasons.
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vegan options do not stop at food, please do not have a one-track brain here. many vegan product items have many well-described issues such as relying heavily on plastics that degrade poorly or contribute to environmental pollution, in addition to being less resilient than animal-based counterparts (and thus needing to be more frequently replaced).
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Please do recognize that not every choice you make works for everyone - not even for all of us who are vegan! There are a lot of tradeoffs to be made in any modern life. For example, I value my time hiking year-round as a way to preserve my mental health. Wearing cotton in cold rainy weather is an invitation to hypothermia. So I opt for a mix of wool and synthetics, while trying to focus on buying high-quality clothing so it will last longer and lower my total lifetime impact. But there are no perfect answers.
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Sounds like we’re generally in agreement. There are always edge cases. One in particular: there is no good alternative to goose down for ultralight winter backpacking gear. So maybe I shouldn’t indulge in winter backpacking. My own personal decision is to go with the most ethically-sourced down I can find, and to care for my gear well enough that it will ultimately outlast me.
Which is just agreeing with your “for the most part,” I guess. I expect you and I could sit down and happily enjoy a vegan meal together.
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