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    Literally nobody in my day-to-day life has ever warned me about or even used the term ‘woke mind virus’. It’s a fucking ridiculous notion pushed by ignorant, non-serious fakers. If anyone did say that to me in person, I’d laugh at their face then turn around and walk away laughing so hard i’d be looking for a hand rail or wall to balance myself. It’s too bad social media doesn’t allow for that level of humiliating interaction

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    Man… Imagine actually losing a child, and then seeing this man call his daughter dead simply because she is trans.

    It’s actually an unbelievably awful and sad thought… And it’s not hypothetical. It’s very real.

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      Also, speaking as a disowned trans woman, while not the case here, often the parents saying that refrain either were the ones to cut contact themselves, or are engaging in missing missing reasons shit

      It’s not uncommon for even loving and supportive parents to need to mourn their idea of who they thought their child was as they get to know them as they are now. But that’s a time to maybe attend some pflag counseling sessions and talk to parents who’ve been through it and can assure them that their kid is the same person and going to be happier. Making a public stink and getting involved in transphobia guarantees lasting damage to your relationship if it can ever be recovered.

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        I’m so very sorry to hear that happened to you. There’s a lot of parents out there that are… less than optimal. I guess the various survivors will just have to build our own found families out of people worth our time.

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          Yeah. Though it should be noted, it’s actually rare for disowning like that to be permanent. I’ve known my fair share of us and contact is usually reestablished a few years later. At nearing 10 years without meaningful contact I’m an exception. But for those who do reestablish contact the years and trust that are lost are incredibly important. To lose family during such an emotionally and materially vulnerable time does lasting damage and some parents don’t seem to get why their child, while open to reestablishing contact, can’t let things go back to how they were before.

          And yeah I’ve been fortunate, I find myself surrounded by love and community at stage after stage of my life. Some scars are difficult to heal, and so I do like to speak up on this topic in case someone who needs to hear does.

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      This is my first thought and is another level of awful on this shit sundae. Trans rights are a whole separate conversation. Let’s start with the fact that some people do lose their children and would do ANYTHING to have them back for one fucking day. A father who buried their child would be well within their rights to beat the ever loving shit out of Elon for this post.

      NO. No they fucking didn’t die. What YOU did was decide you’d rather have a dead son than a living daughter. What YOU decided was your child wasn’t worth it. That you didn’t love them enough to learn anything or change your fucking mind.

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        It’s even worse than that. He’s lying. According to Vivian, he didn’t give a shit that she was trans until he turned alt-right. Now he’s trying to use that to score points with his new fanbase.

        He didn’t care about her pre-transition. He doesn’t care about her post-transition. He doesn’t care about a “woke mind virus”. He’s just doing the right-wing equivalent of virtue signaling. Vice signaling?

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          The “best” part is that it’s basically all because she pointed out what a POS dad he was, and when some stupid publicity stunts he did to make her like him didn’t work, he turned on her and went on this “woke mind virus” tirade. He’s such a petulant child it’s absolutely hilarious.

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      I mean isn’t he choosing all male children? What else do you expect.

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    This is some JW disfellowshiping level behavior.

    But sure Elon, you’re not the one in a cult, it’s everyone outside of your group that’s crazy.

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    Holy fuck is THAT what Vivian’s dead name is?! Jesus Christ what an absolute loser musk is… what is his obsession with the letter X

    Dude is a like 12 year old, I swear

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      Basically his first “son” named X didn’t turn out the way he wanted, so he made another son named X.

      And he changed twitter to X.

      And X is an established nazi reference.

      Elon is rotten and evil to his core.

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        This sort of stuff felt like reaching until I witnessed it myself.

        For those who don’t know: X is like a swastica, and it’s the 88th ascii character, H is the 8th letter, 88 -> HH -> “hail Hitler”.

        Yes. I do feel like Adam West’s Batman.

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          I haven’t seen evidence of X as a dogwhistle, though I would suspect if I did it would be like the OK sign, which was intentionally used to make antifascists look crazy

          I’m not saying he’s not a nazi obsessed with the letter, both are true. But they don’t feel related and I haven’t seen non-circumstantial evidence predating Musk being a fascist.

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            I think the Nazi influence goes back pretty far for him. I heard that his grandparents were neo Nazis in Canada.

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      I’m honestly surprised that I somehow managed to miss that. There’s also X AE A-XII, and there are some others that have an x in the name such as Exa Dark Sideræl Musk and Saxon Musk.

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    Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.

    I really cannot wait for the pendulum to swing back the other way. I am going to be absolutely insufferable about it until I die. These people have gone so far over the line.

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      Wanting to exterminate ideas is definitely not a fascist tendency.

      From the same guy that said he wanted to “cure” autism. Surely you must jest.

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          I’d say eliminating patriarchy or fascism is coercive, but not (necessarily) authoritarian and definitely not fascist:

          • Coercive because you’re using force to suppress the idea (e.g. punching Nazis, canceling abusers.)
          • Anti-authoritarian if the people are organically self-organizing to punch Nazis. More authoritarian if a centralized power is drafting people to punch Nazis.
          • Not fascist because fascism is inherently far-right, and predicated on enforcing a “natural” power hierarchy.

          The Paradox of Tolerance justifies the forceful suppression of fascism and patriarchy. But imo you have to be careful - I limit my application of the Paradox of Tolerance to ideas that intrinsically cannot coexist with freedom of thought.

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    Fucking idiot killed his son himself.There was no “virus”. He went with “you’re dead to me”. Vivian said that this is who she is and he killed her for it. He’s the loser - she’s living her truth and he’s blind to who he really is. What a clown.

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      Yep

      he apparently used IVF or something to have kids, and only had male embryos implanted into the partner dejure of the moment.

      So when she came out as trans, he lost his absolute fucking mind.

      He was always a emotionally stunted pre teen edgelord.

      But when she came out, he went extremely hard right and dove head first into deathcamp nazism

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        I’m not here to shit on your mastery of language, but:

        De jure - by law (from Latin)

        Du jour - of the day (from French)

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        Yeah, he was “pro” rights for that community and posted about it on Twitter pre that happening. Then she came out and he flipped his shit started hating it all.

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        He has like 14 kids and is a total sociopath so ‘losing’ one shouldn’t be a big deal. Russian Tsars had healthier relationships with their kids.

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    This isn’t the right thread to post it on, but no he can be shittier. He even pulled a preemptive Adolf Eichmann when he said that he never physically hurt anyone. This is what Eichmann said at his trial. That he never killed a Jew or ordered anyone to kill a Jew.

    That was, of course, irrelevant. He was the architect of the holocaust and his actions are what allowed the 20 million victims to die.

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      Slight tangent here: it’s important for everyone to recognize how any organizational structure or bureaucracy contributes to the diffusion of responsibility. At best it’s accidental, but at worst, it’s used to protect those in power while ensuring the little guy is left holding the bag. At the same time, it helps everyone involved do their part since their individual role is usually very small and only slightly outside the moral bounds of the individual (if at all). You (anyone) may be in an organization that has the same patterns at play, * right now.*

      This is also why RICO lawsuits are a thing, since it was nearly impossible to nail mob bosses to the wall without it. IMO, we still need something stronger as applied to the misdeeds of corporations, but I suspect that’ll be a long time coming.

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        Many countries did enact RICO style laws to stop organized crime. In Japan if one Yakuza member does something really stupid, they can actually arrest and charge many of his comrades even if they had nothing to do with his crime or even have knowledge of it.

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      If he thinks himself eichnann I’ve got news for him, as he’s a major propagandist, and Goebbels and Streicher both hanged.

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    This is horrendous. Imagine saying “my child is dating someone black, they’re dead to me” or “I didn’t realise her mum was mixed race when I had sex with her so I’m severing contact with my child”. This is outrageous horrible and abusive. I’m genuinely upset about this