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    19 days ago

    At this point why should they say anything? They’ve been fighting tooth and nail for years against this. I feel this is the ‘when your enemy is making mistakes, don’t interfere’. They’re letting people see what they voted for, or didn’t get off their ass to vote for. Not even being part of Trumps’ base will be able to insulate them from what they’re about to struggle with.

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            well until we figure out how to decouple hypothetical data from needing physical, real storage it tracks that every site, no matter the purpose, would need data delimiting of some kind. don’t mean to sound facetious, i like, genuinely believe we are living during some singularity shit. don’t buy the media buzzwords or anything, but, knowledge seems to be solvable. the moment someone or something discovers >exponential returns on learning we’re cooked.

            but anyway, your comment fr captured a lot of sentiment i have trouble expressing as an american zoomer in 2025. it’s so hard to explain to people from different places and different times how this all feels. people who are similar in age seem to be more aware of what’s going on; but, overall there is this shadow of ignorance over everyone and everything that manifests in different forms with each and every individual. there’s no one unified way to fight it.

            i have a shitty thread i made in one of the c/unpopularopinion comms or something to kind of vent about everything and it kind of opened my eyes to how everyone is aware of what’s going on but completely unconcious as to what it all entails.

            in the words of the great philosopher bob dylan, “and don’t speak too soon, for the wheel’s still in spin”

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                is up there with “perpetual motion machine”

                okay so like, i wasn’t being facetious in a meta sense but was being facetious in of that i was joking and knew what i said was nigh impossible.

                jeez now that i say it like that no wonder my attempt at humor didn’t land lmao. i’m sorry i’m pretty sure im autistic in some way. anyway i do computer science irl as a career and hobby, i think data as a concept is the biggest revolution since the wheel.

                hard agree tho. secure weapons, food+water, and knowledge. the only way to ride the storm.

                definitely scared for my generation’s “shot heard round the world” moment

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      What world are you living in?

      They had 4 years to fight Trump and make sure he was properly tried and sentenced for his crimes and they just didn’t because they didn’t want to look like they were going after political opponents. They have actually done next to nothing to fight him.

      And the “mistake” they don’t want to interrupt is Trump deporting people to random countries, setting up a giant concentration camp in gitmo, cutting cancer research funding and making life he’ll for trans people. So maybe they SHOULD interrupt this mistake, with more than just signs.

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        19 days ago

        Anyone with 2 ears and 2 eyes saw and heard the warnings. This is on the American people who chose not to vote their way out of this. I don’t care what they didn’t accomplish, it could’ve been cut and dry if people just voted.

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          people don’t “choose” to not vote on the scales we see in america today.

          the fact that ~64% of just eligible voters, not even the entire population, is considered “historic turnouts” tells you all you need to know about the “democracy” we live in.

          the vast, vast majority of americans are disenfranchised, and always have been. people do not choose to be oppressed.

          when will it be kosher to say this out loud?

          the rhetoric spread in this comment i am replying to is in service of the fascists and their goals. “of course this is happening, they deserved it.”

          don’t fall for their lies

          don’t fall for their lies

          don’t fall for their lies

          we can stand united, together. not just here, across the globe. workers of the world unite & all.

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          Do you understand how gerrymandering works? Winner take all? Plus all the other strategies? Millions of us didn’t have our votes count for anything. Didn’t matter who we picked… But you think we should blame ourselves.

          Obviously it’s complicated, but if your simple answer is “blame the victims” then I’m not sure where you’ve been living.

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      19 days ago

      If that were true, it’s a dumb election strategy to sit back and wait while your opponent puts an end to free and fair elections.

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        This is all on the American people now, not their so called leaders. They could start a coup, anything really. As an outsider I don’t give a shit what Obama has to say about the situation. But it would be incredibly inspiring to see the people.wake up and take back their counry

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          As an outsider

          people.wake up and take back their counry

          Yeah it’s clear you’re an outsider by that ridiculous statement alone. My state is bigger than many nations, and the rural areas are full of people who support these morons. Oh, and they have a lot of very illegal weaponry and a victim complex, just waiting to kill those who they see as coming after them

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      Yes they (most, not all) are bargaining with the lives of countless Americans, but not themselves or their families.

      Fuck every one of them doing this on purpose.

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      Kind of a suicide move. Like, they let the mass murderer in, so you’re letting everyone die to spite them.

      We know that project 2025 is essentially a complete dismantling of democracy, so what the hell do they think they’ll get out of letting it happen? Aside from getting lined up against a wall?

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      I dunno, man, waiting until the last minute to start trying Donald when we all know how slow the wheels of justice grind in this country doesn’t seem tooth and nail to me.

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      What even can they do?

      This, for better or worse, is the will of the people. It’s not like nobody knew this was going to happen.

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        What even can they do?

        • Refuse Democratic cooperation on a single Republican nominee or bill without severe concessions.
        • Hang any Democrat who dares utter the word “bipartisanship” from a lamp post.
        • Boycott important Trump speeches.
        • Refuse to assist in passing laws that will give the president more power.
        • Filibuster everything and use every iota of resistance in the Senate possible.
        • Participate in direct protests like Al Green - every single member should have done the same thing.
        • Participate and lead street protests directly.
        • Demand lawful access to government buildings, enter by force if necessary.
        • Have candidates for 2028 start running for president NOW, to serve as foci and centers of resistance.
        • Start drafting a “Project 2029” now. Be just as prepared as Trump’s team was.

        They are not doing any of these things.

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          • Start running town halls and hit adds where republican lawmakers run from their own constituents.

          • stop bitching about decorum or voting to censor the one guy who stood up for American democracy.

          • stop pretending like it’s the voter’s fault you lost them

          • start talking about solutions to problems rather than bitching about how awful trump is. One liners that don’t require an associates degree in economics. And focus on problems of average Americans. Not “The Economy™️”

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          This. Even if they don’t have any real power in the Senate or the House, they should be fighting and actively resisting on every front.

          Protests, occupations, or any other popular movement initiated by the people will serve nothing unless they are clearly supported by the Democrats.