X revokes paid blue check from United Auto Workers after strike called::After a report called out Musk’s union-busting, UAW’s blue check got reinstated.
X revokes paid blue check from United Auto Workers after strike called::After a report called out Musk’s union-busting, UAW’s blue check got reinstated.
I don’t think that’s what fascism is
Union-busting is absolutely part of the fascist agenda.
Only after elected they absorb the union into the state. Before elections the Nazis backed many of the unions.
well no, the Nazis paid lip service to “workers” in general but literally got into bloody (as in armed paramilitary) conflicts with unions (Iron Front vs. SA) for years before the complete takeover of the government, after the takeover of the government almost all union organizers got sent to the concentration camps as political prisoners because “they were all Marxists”, the Nazis then replaced the unions with the German Labor Front (DAF), an organization that existed to keep the worker in his place, going as far as to literally take money from the workers to pay for building new production lines.
so, no, they did not absorb the unions, and they definitely didn’t back the unions, unless you call strike-breaking with a machine gun “backing”
Yes, they had a ton of conflict with the more liberal unions, but they also organized Nazi aligned unions. They were not very successful at recruiting members to them but they tried to. Also, occasionally they cooperated with communist unions.
Yes, absorption? As in unions used to be allowed to exist as independent entities, then workers were forced to join the state “union”
Source on Nazi strike breaking before 1932/3?
So what you’re saying is that the Right are pro-union and are staunch defenders of worker’s rights
No? I don’t generally agree with how a lot of people group the right, the Nazis were a lot closer to the Soviets than they were capitalists. Furthermore, I didn’t say they were pro every Union, I said they supported unions that supported them.
This is blatantly ahistorical and you’d almost have to deliberately keep yourself ignorant to think this.
They had an entire organization for infiltrating unions to try to get support
Almost like exactly what I said.
My guy, your source proves my point, not yours, even by your own summary of it. If you were capable of feeling ashamed of yourself, now would be a great time to do so.
How so?
No, it’s part of the capitalist agenda and its a good thing. If you don’t want to do your job then quit. That goes for cops, UAW workers, teachers, and more.
No, it’s actually a very very very bad thing, as is the capitalist agenda, which has been an abject failure in accomplishing any of it’s claims.
Also, getting you to turn power over to unelected and unaccountable wealth hoarders based on nothing but their wealth is also part of the capitalist agenda.
Aslo, fuck you for your elitist bullshit and telling people to just change jobs. Seriously…fuck you.
You’ll understand when you’re older.
Fuck you, elitist. It has been an ABJECT FAILURE. THIS is capitalism in action:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-09-14/california-homelessness-epidemic-licensed-tent-villages
Calm down, kid. Capitalism is the reason you have the free time to post on Lemmy.
No it isnt. Commerce is. Capitalism isnt commerce. Capitalism is leveraging power against others for financial gain; commerce is a feee market exchange of goods and services. Commerce existed long before capitalism did.
Capitalism is the most efficient form of commerce.
That’s what they just said.
If you’re an obscenely wealthy ghoul who profits off the suffering of everyone who has less money than you, then yes. In all other cases, absolutely the fuck not.
So you’d be happy if all the cops, auto workers, teachers, nurses, firefighters, etc. quit? You’d rather have massive and continuous societal upheaval than workers collectively bargaining for the right to make a decent living doing their jobs? I’d rather have a functioning society, personally, and that’s why I support unions and you should too.
Unions are labor cartels. They drive up the cost of goods and services.
Then why does a Big Mac cost almost the same at a unionized McDonald’s in Denmark as it does at a non-unionized one in Tennessee? I mean, I guess anything is possible when you just lie, but a lot of things become a lot clearer once you acknowledge reality.
Now make the same argument for manufacturing in the US versus Vietnam
You know that song “Think About It” by Flight Of The Conchords? “They’re turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers, but what’s the real cause? 'Cause the sneakers don’t seem that much cheaper. Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got 'em made by little slave kids? What are your overheads?”
Funnily enough, I used to work in a running shoe store, and Jemaine is actually 100% right. Nike, Asics, Brooks, Adidas, most of them mostly manufacture in southeast Asia, or at least did at the time and probably still do. Nike has famously had their name attached to the word “sweatshop” on multiple occasions. Meanwhile, New Balance manufactures in the US. Prices are similar, quality is basically the same, personally I don’t get on with either of them as well as I get on with Altra but that’s beside the point. Nike’s CEO makes like 100x what NB’s does, which means NB manages to match Nike on price and quality with a much more equitable pay structure and manufacturing in the US.
If your metric for the economy is anything other than how much money the CEO makes, then New Balance is the clear winner. And I just want to note how fucked it is that I’m looking at a CEO making almost 300k a year, who also happens to be kind of a right wing dipshit, and saying “yeah, he seems equitable” just because I have to compare him to one making 32 mil.
Another example is that Orbea bicycles, which are literally made by a worker-owned co-op in Mondragon in Spain, with a lot (though admittedly not all) of their manufacturing either in house or just over the border in Portugal, compete and win in top-level racing, so the quality is obviously there, with prices that match or beat ones set by giants like Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, or, well, Giant, all of whom do most of their manufacturing in Taiwan (to be fair, Giant is a Taiwanese company, but Trek, Spesh, and 'Dale are all American and, weirdly, Giant handles a lot of their manufacturing).
If you can’t show me that I’m wrong, then sure, pivot to something else again. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting something to change. Vaas from Far Cry 3 taught me that.
Buddy I’m not reading all that.
Yeah it’s some business owner shutting down a union
Like, unironically. Fascists are extremely anti-union.
There’s obviously a lot more to it, and this is a relatively minor example even after Elon made paid accounts have more visibility, but this is very much one of their things.
The Nazis and Soviets did the same thing about unions. Picked unions that had a lot of their backers in them and backed those, then once elected they created state ran unions and banned all others.
for the fascist please refer to my previous comment, for the Communists, the Bolsheviks didn’t have much to do with the small and numerous Russian unions (Russia had a very beurocratically decentralized industry at that point in time) and later fought against them as they mostly joined the white Russian faction (the bolsheviks being backed by the Entente), and ironically the term Tankie comes from an event where the soviet unions crushed mainly union uprisings against the soviets in Hungary, with tanks, because the soviets also couldn’t stand unions (like ever fascist ever)
please stop repeating American Cold War era misinformation.
Source for this? Everything I find contradicts that, but most of those are Marxist sources.
You mean central powers
I clearly stated they opposed unions not reporting to the state. Also the Hungarian revolution was a bit more than a strike. Both the Nazis and the Soviets constructed unions that were organs of the state.
That’s the union’s gonna tear the fascists down, down, down.