• abraxas@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Who said we’re important to them. You did: “If Trump somehow manages to win 2024 from jail, it’s our fault on the Left that he wins.”

    Not our fault for non-voting. Our fault for making undecided voters see Biden as literally the same as Trump. Propagandists are not important to me, but I still oppose them at all costs.

    You bet I am. Lesser evilism is a clearly failed strategy

    So instead you just lie and pretend the lesser evil is the greater evil? Congrats, you must be young.

    I saw where lesser evilism got us with Obama

    I would fucking give anything if we had another boring Obama clone win in 2016. I have DACA friends. I have had many people in my life needlessly die or suffer under Trump. I used to follow a religion that George W Bush actively tried to get banned from legal US protections because he didn’t like it. And you’re telling me to my face that you approve of innocent people dying so you can punish Democrats for only giving the 5% of far-left 10% of respect. Tell me that to my face. Tell me you are happy with how things went. Until then, I will point out that Biden did more for the far-left than I ever expected. And he acted with extreme prejudice to protect the people I fucking care about most.

    I’m guessing you didn’t have a lot of family or friends directly devastated by Trump’s actions? If so, how can you be so bloody heartless?

    I recieve: a hawk candidate

    You recieve: a third party vote

    Ah yes. Perhaps the Green party. Most heavily funded by the Republicans because it gives them presidencies. I call this “taking the majority hostage”.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      So instead you just lie and pretend the lesser evil is the greater evil?

      Never said this, no.

      I’m guessing you didn’t have a lot of family or friends directly devastated by Trump’s actions? If so, how can you be so bloody heartless?

      You’re right, other than the fact that I moved away from my home state in part due to the rise in anti-trans sentiment and legislation (and obviously he continued the wars too so he’s at least as bad). I and my family were, however, directly affected by Obama’s actions in pointlessly extending the wars of aggression in the Middle East. You can read about my experiences here

      Peace is absolutely not even close to being enough to address all the impending and on-going crises affecting this country. I am being extremely lax, generous, and accommodating by setting it as my sole precondition. The fact that you want me to abandon all of my principles and every single precondition so the democrats can keep following the republicans right in a self-defeating strategy is not my problem.

      I call this “taking the majority hostage”

      Excellent, if I have the power to take the majority hostage to the end of achieving peace, I intend to take full advantage of it.