• programmatica@lemmy.world
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    Republicans will pardon this guy. Lets be real, he did nothing when compared to george floyd riots (where people were murdered and robbed left and right in the name of a drug addict who was resisting arrest). They murdered and destroyed major cities and the propaganda sheep act like it never happened, why?

    Things are going back to normal really soon so enjoy this bullshit while ya can ;)

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      Attempting to overthrow the government, without a shred of evidence for the stated reasons, is not the same as people flipping the fuck out because they’ve watch, first hand, yet another civilian get executed in the streets, by a government official, with their own fucking eyes. You’re on the wrong side of your own argument.

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        Criminals arent civilians and killing people while destroying countless small businesses in the name of a drug addict criminal is worse than a few people peacefully protesting. No one apparently had the balls to bring this to your attention until today, youre welcome. When time has past, you will find you are on the wrong side of history. You promote extremism, and degrade free speech and peaceful protest. Sad, but there are more ppl like me in the world, we just typically keep quiet.

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          No one, criminal or not, are legally allowed to be executed by police. Hence the prison sentence for Derek, which would have never happened without the spotlight.

          No one rioted in the name of a criminal, they rioted in the name of government overreach. The history of the victims of that overreach is entirely irrelevant.

          Show me where I’ve promoted extremism? No where do I discount the violence of BLM, violence is not good, but it’s the expected reaction to people seeing unjust violence first hand, especially from the government. Where do I advocate for censorship? You watch raw footage of Jan 6th and call that peaceful? These people were arrested for assaulting police officers and breaking into a government building where every top level official was currently sitting. It’s on thousands of cameras for all to see. Bragged about by the people that did it. You know, EVIDENCE. That’s not censorship, that’s bare-minimum law and order. There are a lot of ppl like you in the world but not more, and you never shut the fuck up, or make any points worth arguing, yet here I sit wasting my time because I’d rather not see the country fall to brain-dead parrots.

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            Then comply and listen to the cops. Youll survive. People are stubborn and dumb. Police dont just run around killing people. If you believe they do, you are a victim of propaganda, and should learn to think for yourself.

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          Hey so I’m going to block you, but I’m trying to figure out if you’re still able to see it after I block you. So if you can see this can you reply just like a thumbs up or something.

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      I don’t recall the George Floyd protesters killing anyone.

      Kyle Rittenhouse sure did, but that wasn’t about Floyd, and Rittenhouse wasn’t a protestor:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting

      One of the right wing “Patriot Prayer” asshats got killed in Portland, but that was in reaction to their fascist parade, not the Floyd protests.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl

      The Guardian pegs it at 25, people driving their cars through protest marches, etc. But they are conflating all the protests, not just the Floyd ones.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

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              Did you read your own link?

              “Lee Keltner, a navy veteran who made custom western hats, was shot after a “patriot rally” in Denver on 10 October.” - Not a George Floyd protest.

              “Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a far-right Trump supporter, was shot after a rally in Portland in August.” - Not a George Floyd protest.

              “Garrett Foster was reportedly carrying an AK-47 rifle when he was shot to death in July by an armed man who had been driving a car through a crowd of Black Lives Matter protesters in Austin.” - Protestor was the victim, not the shooter. Killed by a fascist supporter.

              “In Kenosha in August, a 17-year-old carrying a rifle he was not old enough to legally possess shot and killed two people, Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, and seriously injured a third at a volatile late-night protest.” -Not a George Floyd protest AND the victims were killed by a fascist supporter.

              “In Louisville, the photographer Tyler Gerth was shot and killed at a downtown park where protesters gathered. The alleged shooter, Steven Nelson Lopez, was homeless and had a history of severe mental illness, and had reportedly been asked to leave the park earlier because of his behavior. Many of the protesters in the park were armed and on edge, and returned fire when Lopez started shooting, local news outlets reported.” -Unrelated to the protest.

              “In Las Vegas, Jorge Gomez was wearing body armor and carrying several guns when he was shot to death by Las Vegas police at a protest in June. Before he was shot, several protesters told Gomez they disapproved of him being armed, and even a journalist questioned him about why he was holding his gun in his hand with his finger on the trigger, the Las Vegas Sun reported. Las Vegas police officer Shay Mikalonis was shot in the head during the same protest, and reportedly remains paralyzed from the injury. Officials have said the 20-year-old Las Vegas resident charged in the shooting had not been participating in the protest before the attack, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.” - 2 victims, one protestor shot by the cops, and a cop shot by someone unrelated to the protest.

              “Other law enforcement officers have been injured in non-fatal shootings this year, including two Los Angeles sheriff’s deputies shot in Compton while sitting in their patrol car in mid-September, and two Louisville police officers shot in late September during a protest over the lack of serious charges against police officers in Breonna Taylor’s killing.” -Unrelated to ANY protest, George Floyd or otherwise.

              “James Scurlock, a Black Lives Matter protester with an infant daughter, was shot to death in Omaha in May after a confrontation with a white bar owner outside the man’s bar.” -Protestor as victim, not perpetrator.

              “Other demonstrators died when cars drove through or rammed into crowds of Black Lives Matter protesters. Summer Taylor, a Black Lives Matter protester who worked in a veterinary clinic, was killed in such an incident in Seattle. So was Robert Forbes, a black protester from Bakersfield whose sister recalled him demonstrating decades earlier over the brutal police beating of Rodney King. In St Louis, Barry Perkins, a father of two, was killed after being dragged and run over by a FedEx truck during a protest in May.” - More victims of fascists, not protestors.

              “In addition to the people killed while demonstrating, at least 14 more Americans have been killed in other incidents linked to political unrest this summer, including seven people shot during alleged looting of businesses, among them David Dorn, a retired police officer shot during the robbery of a pawn shop in St Louis (not protest related); two California law enforcement officers murdered by an alleged anti-government “Boogaloo” extremist (victims of a fascist, not protestors), one person found dead in a pawn shop in Minneapolis that had been set on fire; an eight-year-old shot to death in Atlanta; and a Louisville restaurant owner who was shot dead by the national guard.” - Again, not protest related.

              “One of two fatal shootings of young black men in Seattle’s self-declared “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” was not politically motivated, according to ACLED’s review of details in the case, but the June shooting of Antonio Mays Jr, a 16-year-old, was found to be connected to the broader unrest. A Seattle Times review of footage linked to the chaotic scene of the shooting suggested that some people in the protest zone might have believed they were under attack when they fired their guns at the stolen Jeep Mays and another young teenager were driving into the zone.” - CHAZ was not a George Floyd protest, it may have started that way, but became increasingly more complicated than that.

              “Jessica Doty-Whitaker, a white woman, was shot to death early one July morning in Indianapolis. Her fiance told media outlets that her shooting had been preceded by a tense argument with some passerby about the use of a racial slur and the statements, “Black Lives Matter” v “All Lives Matter”. While they walked away from that confrontation, the fiance said, someone opened fire later and the 24-year-old mother was killed. Indianapolis police have not verified those claims or released any details about the circumstances of the shooting, and no one has been charged, but ACLED categorized the shooting as potentially politically motivated.” - Unrelated to a protest.

              “Victor Cazares Jr was described by friends and family as a supporter of Black Lives Matter. On 1 June, a day of widespread protests across the country, he was shot to death outside a neighborhood grocery store in Cicero, Illinois, that he was reportedly trying to protect.” - Unrelated to a protest.