I graduated in May with my associates degree, and sadly after applying a bit nothing, not even a reply email. I am convinced I am just unprepared for this industry, I will admit I don’t have a GitHub with 1 billion contributions, and a bunch of connections. but can I seriously get nothing. I can’t afford the 25K needed for my bachelors. I am honestly considering put in my applications to target or whatever and giving up.

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    OP, I’ve been reading your replies in this thread, and in my humble opinion I think you need to re-evaluate your worth. If you believe you’re only worth a minimum wage job, then it’s not surprising if you end up in a minimum wage job.

    This industry is rife with imposter syndrome. But you know what the thing about imposter syndrome is, is only the people who know enough to know that they don’t know everything feel it. Do you truly know nothing about programming, or are you a boss babe with a couple of years of formal education in the field?

    If you really feel that you don’t have the experience to get an entry level job, then you deserve to do something for yourself to raise your confidence. Start a project, especially if your education has been mostly theoretical. It can be difficult at first, especially if you feel like you don’t know where to start. But in my experience, even the most difficult problem can be broken up into small, manageable pieces. I think you’ll be surprised how quickly you’ll learn to build stuff, and you’ll be getting some real experience to. You might even wonder why you were ever worried in the first place.

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    if it helps, I was sending out custom CVs to companies for two years to the tune of 10+ a day before I got hired for my first “real” tech job.
    after working here for years, I really realize how little I knew and how badly I came off.

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    I put this is a comment but felt it was reverential to the entire thread I guess

    I think a studio somewhere is about the best I can do, living at home is kinda ugh, and I have been doing that for the past few years and living here has been sadly a hot pocket for my mental illness. keep mind if I did leave it would still be in the south. I am just kinda considering a min wage job since I don’t really see a way to get into tech now, and I need a lot of thing to survive sadly including ADHD meds and likely something to stop my depressive episodes from getting this bad. After that I will likely be okay to kinda work on software dev stuff in my free time and maybe do an online bachelors part time while trying to build the portfolio I did not during my years in college. I doubt it will be pleasant working at Target or something and living in a studio apartment I almost not afford but it’s better than nothing

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    I’m not too familiar on how it works in the US but from my experience it’s easier to start at a lower position and move up internally, tech support or sys admin for example. But again, I’m completely ignorant how it is in the US, this is all based on Europe.

    I never got a university degree but the position I applied to was junior sys admin and I asked for a pretty low salary. I worked a year there and made myself irreplaceable enough and looked for better offers to leverage that and got a raise along with a better position. That was like 10 years ago and now I’m in devops instead where I can do pretty much anything, including development, though I prefer sys admin tasks, with those I need to work like 4 hours a week if automation works as it should. Oh and never tell anyone you don’t have enough to do, that will just land you more work for no pay.

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    I think a studio somewhere is about the best I can do, living at home is kinda ugh, and I have been doing that for the past few years and living here has been sadly a hot pocket for my mental illness. keep mind if I did leave it would still be in the south. I am just kinda considering a min wage job since I don’t really see a way to get into tech now, and I need a lot of thing to survive sadly including ADHD meds and likely something to stop my depressive episodes from getting this bad. After that I will likely be okay to kinda work on software dev stuff in my free time and maybe do an online bachelors part time while trying to build the portfolio I did not during my years in college. I doubt it will be pleasant working at Target or something and living in a studio apartment I almost not afford but it’s better than nothing

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    You are unprepared for this industry because it is saturated, even moreso now that AI is considered a part of the application pool, and every employer does something that wasn’t taught in your classes. The hiring process is designed to be brutal. It is what separates the engineers from the programmers, and the programmers from the script kiddies. It isn’t for everyone unless you have the drive for it.

    You will have to try harder if you want to get somewhere in this industry. That also means further learning, whether at university or on your own. This is a lesson I am still learning after almost 20 years. I graduated with a comp sci associates in 2008, and worked on a contract basis throughout my 20s and early 30s. I still have nothing to show for it in my late 30s, because I let every negative experience push me backwards, to the point where the career just crashed and burned, and I ended up at McDonald’s. Don’t make those same mistakes.

    You are going to have to pay your bills in any way possible, even if that means working a “min wage job”, which has absolutely no shame. You don’t have to give up your dream if you work at Target. Not everything has to be an absolute. You can work at Target while working on a side project that will give you those 1 billion GitHub contributions.

    Put in the work.

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      You will have to try harder if you want to get somewhere in this industry. That also means further learning, whether at university or on your own. This is a lesson I am still learning after almost 20 years. I graduated with a comp sci associates in 2008, and worked on a contract basis throughout my 20s and early 30s. I still have nothing to show for it in my late 30s, because I let every negative experience push me backwards, to the point where the career just crashed and burned, and I ended up at McDonald’s. Don’t make those same mistakes.

      from what I am gathering from all of this, that I will likely never really work in the industry consdiering I am gonna need 3 jobs to stay a float you do realize I have little to no time. lmao

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        I do understand your lack of time, you are not alone. I was hoping that my (similar educational and emotional) experience would show you that giving up and allowing hardships to move you backwards isn’t the way to go. I’m not saying your goal will never happen for you. I’m saying the “finish line of success” is constantly moving, and this is a marathon and not a race. Don’t let yourself get in the way of yourself. As long as your basic needs are met (housing, clothing, food) and you are making steps towards your end goal - no matter how small - you are making progress.

        These are some of the things I stuck to after the burnout that kept the goal moving when working 45 hour weeks in an understaffed kitchen:

        • Too tired? Read code and update the docs. It keeps the projects fresh in my mind.
        • Too upset? Bug smashing time! The dopamine boost is amaaaazing.
        • Can’t sleep because the sleep schedule is fucked up? I’m awake, instead of getting upset about that, use that energy write a function or two and then go back to bed. It doesn’t have to be a whole feature. Conventional/Atomic commits are fabulous for this, especially when using git flow.
        • Woke up a little too early? Pull in some PRs and test them. Use the work day to figure out whether I want to merge them or not.
        • Leisure time is leisure time. If code feels like leisure, do it.

        Obviously, the above may not work for you, it only serves as an example of how to redirect your feelings and reality to be a little more productive, to get closer to your goal. Your methods may be different.

        My perception of you (going by posts on here and Mastodon) is that you have the passion that is required to succeed, and lack the self-confidence and determination to really go for it. The determination is the most important part because with enough determination, you are the one in the driver’s seat. Use your passion to reinforce your determination. In time, the results of your determination will reinforce the self-confidence.

        You can do it, you just need to believe in yourself. If it helps, I believe in you too. Big hugs to you, sis. You’ve go this.

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            What exactly do you want to hear? Are you hoping someone on here is just gonna offer you a job because of this sob post and your winning personality? People have given you lots of advice and your only response has been “but if I’m working for minimum wage I won’t have time, waaaaa”. Like do you even have one minimum wage job yet? If not, what are you doing with your time right now? Stop imagining some future where you’re working 3 jobs and start doing some shit to better your situation. Or don’t, because capitalism fucks everyone over and someone has to lose big. If you’re certain it’s going to be you then it probably is.

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    I think I am gonna get someone to look at resume, and maybe try to get a support job. Ya know like Comcast, or whatever. I think I might have half decent odds.

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    I feel others covered what’s needed, but just wanted to say don’t give up. Yes, you may have to do some odd or non ideal jobs, but just don’t lose your passion. I know from personal experience.

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      OP could try tech support. I know that sucks, but at least they’ll get their foot in the door.