• Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 days ago

      Sure, the anatomical features we use to categorise people into genders have always existed, but the categories themselves are made up and there’s a rather large amount of overlap between them. The more strictly someone attempts to enforce a given set of criteria as the basis for this categorisation, the less practical utility their definition tends to have in terms of everyday use.

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            It’s an edge case. Does a government form determine reality? They can put down one, both, none.

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              You cannot put down both or none on any government form that does not consider gender to be a non-biological thing.

              Laws are not supposed to be selectively applied. If they can put down whichever one they choose, you are admitting your definition of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ do not apply to how society works.

              I know “the exception that proves the rule” is a fun phrase, but it’s not actually how things work.

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                But this is a biological thing. It’s a medical condition. It’s not your gender if you were born with both sets of organs. The point of equality was to get rid of laws being selectively applied. By your philosophy, race also works similarly. Someone who is latino is whoever says they’re latino.

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                  Again, laws are not supposed to be selectively applied. If they can put ‘man’ or ‘woman’ on any form, so can anyone else. Or do you think they need some sort of confirmation by a doctor before they’re allowed to fill out any sort of government forms?

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                    And so what if they do? Nobody is throwing you in jail for selecting the “wrong” box. And if there is some special program you’re defrauding… well… treating people differently on this in the law isn’t part of my philosophy.

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          9 days ago

          Intersex. And there are more of them than trans people per 100k, I believe. Yet somehow they’re never brought up.

          Many (maybe most?) end up getting some type of gender-affirming surgery very early on, but not always. And who knows, going forward.