With the US result some friends and I have been discussing who the worst PM was/is.

  • Zagorath@aussie.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    21 hours ago

    It’s definitely a competition between Abbott and Morrison.

    You could make an argument for Fraser, but that would be purely on the fact that he got into power initially in a completely undemocratic foreign-backed coup. His actual governing was relatively reasonable.

    • Nath@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      14 hours ago

      Mr Fraser privatised Medibank (the original Medicare). Universal healthcare was the dream-child of the preceding government. The Liberal Party hated it and tried to block it. One of the first things they did was kill it. I fully recognise that my views of Mr Fraser were the product of my childhood - where my political views mostly boiled down to “Liberals are evil and Labor are the good guys” thanks to my parental influences.

      It turns out that universal healthcare is pretty popular, though. It was the main issue that kept the Libs in the wilderness for over a decade. They had to promise not to kill Medicare to ever get another shot at government.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        13 hours ago

        Oh yeah Fraser was definitely not good for the country. But compared to every Liberal who came after him?

        • shirro@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          21 minutes ago

          Fraser was uncompromising on things like refugees so he gets some credit for that as Howard/Fisher did for gun control. I don’t think Howard was proud of the children overboard stuff and not sure Fraser would have done that but he governed in different times. I think there is at least one PM since who had no moral compass at all, like clinically lacking, there was just the mask but I am struggling to remember anything he did.

        • Nath@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 hours ago

          I had several disagreements with Mr Howard, but I believe that despite those differences, he really was trying to do the right thing for the country.

          I liked Mr Turnbull. In an alternate universe where he was permitted to actually lead the nation and wasn’t held down by his party, I think he could have been one of the great PMs.

          I didn’t have a lot of time for either Mr Abbott nor Mr Morrison. Both were bad for the country. I honestly can’t recall a redeeming thing to say about either of them.

    • Fleur_@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      19 hours ago

      I hate that I only learned about this after I got out of school. Love to tell us about all the corrupt govs in the world, hate to tell us that time and elected official got replaced because of a bunch of shitfuckery and a bunch of CIA dollars.