• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    The sports debate always enters very difficult territory.

    What people do with their own body in their own time is their business. I cannot find a statement of Ware disagreeing with this take

    However with sports the debate inherently goes outside of personal freedoms. A competition is against other people. Demanding people to agree with every take outside of personal freedom, or directly calling them transphobes is rather extreme.

    Nonetheless if people really wanted it, I doubt Ware really cares about this position enough to not move on it.

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        2 months ago

        I quickly search it and all I could find was a clip which was hard clipped of Butch saying “I don’t think that biological males should play in female sports, I think it gives an unfair, you know, competitive advantage.”

        What I wonder is whether he brought this up on his own or somebody asked him for his personal opinion on the matter. But the cut off on the clip does raise some questions. Fake progressives like AOC then going after the Greens for it raises all the more questions.

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          Look, just phrasing any of this in terms of ‘biological males’ indicates his knowledge of the transgender rights movement is very outdated (use the term Assigned Male at Birth! gender isn’t biological and sex doesn’t work like that!) or he’s using explicitly transphobic terminology. Either way, it reflects that he holds a position that trans people and their advocates are 100% in the right to revoke support over. AOC will always take any opportunity to attack the Greens, she’s an opportunist. That doesn’t mean that what he said is acceptable.

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      Nobody who claims to care about this gives a fuck about women’s sports. It’s just the most rhetorically fortified position for being anti-trans.

      Also professional sports are just games for rich kids anyways so who cares

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      The sports debate is only difficult territory if you’re a raging transphobe who somehow feels that “the integrity of sports” is somehow on the same level as literal human rights. Otherwise it’s extremely simple; human rights are significantly more important than some made up bullshit about how people are just becoming trans solely so they can win at sports

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      2 months ago

      Demanding people to agree with every take outside of personal freedom, or directly calling them transphobes is rather extreme.

      “I don’t care as long as they keep it to themselves and don’t ask to not get actively excluded by society” get fucked