• IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Nope. The perks just don’t outweigh charging literally anywhere else.

    Can’t tow more than 90 miles. It’s more expensive. It takes 20 minutes best case if you don’t have to wait for a charger.

    The PHEV truck is by a long shot a better overall product than full ev truck.

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      2 days ago

      Most Americans do not live in a trailer, which they need to tow for 90miles on a regular bases. In fact most probably have never towed anything.

      20min charging after 3h drive is totally fine. There are people who actually like to take a break from driving, take a piss and eat something decent when on the road.

      The reailty is that most Americans stay within EV range for months, only going to work, shopping and local social stuff. That means no gas station for months.

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        2 days ago

        Nope. Y’all got to drop hand waiving away 20 minute stops lol, normal people do not stop that long.

        And you’re correct that most folks stay under 80 miles. Which is why it’s a waste to have a full EV battery vs 80 miles of range. The 80 miles day to day is perfect and having a gas backup for longer trips eliminates any concern over range or having to wait an hour for a free charger.

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          2 days ago

          PHEVs are below 50miles of offical electric range. In the real world it is lower. So nowhere close to 80 miles.

          So you have a choice, fill up your car in a gas station on a regular bases or wait a bit longer when you charge up on a longer road trip.

          Obviously ideal would be hsr for longer trips, but well.

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          2 days ago

          On any kind of road trip… The only time I’m driving beyond the range of my battery. Taking a longer stop is not uncommon. Walk the dogs. Grab a bite. Done charging back on the road. I drove from Detroit to Madison with no issues. The reality is that most of the miles folks drive every day is within 50 miles of their home. Grocery store, work, school, day care, games a do for that and EV makes a lot of sense.

          If you are big into camping and towing trailers every weekend which some folks do. An EV makes no sense. The power density for the weight doesn’t make sense. It’s why EV for commercial trucks doesn’t make a lot of sense either. Hydrogen will make more sense for those that need higher power density but want to be green.

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            2 days ago

            Good for you. I drive straight there with 5 minute stops. That shit will add hours for my traveling. Stop telling other people is not a problem because it is for many people. It’s absurd I have to day this crap.

            I don’t need fuel economy for my towing needs. I need fuel economy for daycare.

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              I think you just agreed with me, but it’s honestly hard to tell. EV makes sense for everyday usage for a lot of Americans. It does not make sense for every American. Especially those that regularly tow, routinely driving 200+ miles a day or may not have access to a low cost charger.

              For those folks especially towers, hydrogen is likely the only viable green option. Batteries are just too heavy for long haul commercial trips and eat up payload that could otherwise be used to ship goods. Power density for demanding applications is paramount.