What’d y’all think of the debate?

  • Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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    2 months ago

    Kamala lied about so much. It was insane. Yet they never called her out on it.

    No real policy. Just stupid statements backed by lies. I’m just a middle class girl. lol. No, no you were not.

    I am impressed she didn’t cackle even once.

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      2 months ago

      can you list a few lies in the debate from Harris? not that i don’t believe you. just haven’t followed her enough to scrutinize.

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        2 months ago

        Sure Donald Trump has filed bankruptcy six times. That’s false. Donald Trump had filed bankruptcy zero times. The fine people comment was false. She denied wanting to defund the police. She denied her stance on fracking. She was full of shit the whole night.

        Ironically I support her real stance on fracking. It’s an important issue to me. Fracking is a horrible practice that needs to stop

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            Bankruptcy is a legal matter. Either a person files or they don’t.

            I also wouldn’t shame someone for filing.

            Much less would I shame a business person for filing against their business if needed.

            Sure Kamala has never filed a BK on a business but she’s never ran a business. She’s never created jobs.

            Dislike Trump all you want but has created thousands of jobs. Kamala zero.

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              2 months ago

              The statement is true, per the specifications I allowed. I never indicated any value assessment as you focused on. That’s not the point

              Edit, to address the goalpost move: as a DA she certainly would have been in charge of staffing an office and had many humans in jobs. More than zero. So that’s not true

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                2 months ago

                She didn’t create those jobs. she didn’t run a p/l. The money didn’t come from her but from the state of California or the county depending on which job she did. The tax payers paid for those jobs.

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                  Her office would have designated the need for positions and filled them. They would have had a budget and worked within it to staff.

                  Another goalpost move on p/l.

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                    2 months ago

                    No goal post as been moved. She did not create jobs. She’s never run a business. She proudly proclaimed she’s always been on the government teat.

                    I prefer someone who actually creates jobs

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          2 months ago

          it came off to me that her opinion had changed on fracking, being a politician in America is not won through honesty. inverters must see you as profitable, money is in oil. i have heard Donaald has filed bankruptcy i had to make sure and looked it up i’d like to see your source on this.

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            2 months ago

            He has had companies filed bankruptcy. He has never filed. The two are not the same.

            If she had take the anti-fracking stance. I’d make me strongly consider my vote. Fracking taints the ground water. To me that’s just stupid.

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              For a politician to take the stance of anti fracking would be political suicide. Thanks to Republicans money is speech , its become an incestuous game.

              Would you say Harris’s lie is as bold as trumps? One is splitting hairs the other is a fairy tail that is made to create division.

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                Not really; most Democrats would support a ban on fracking. At this point, never Trumpers would support the ban to stop Trump.

                While I strongly dislike Harris, having clean water is important to me. Once you have contaminated the ground water, you are left with few options.

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                  I think your missing the point, we’re talking about Harris being a liar. And I am asking even though I don’t see her flip as a lie. But for the sake of of it we’ll say she’s lying. Is her lie as bold as trumps?

                  Anyway CNN did a great job combing through the debate and fact checking here’s an article/video about it

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                    Trying to say which lie is more bold is a tad weird. A lie is a lie. Which lie do you think was more bold than Trump’s?

                    Kamala lied about US troops being in combat. THey still are. Isn’t that a pretty bold lie? We have people risking their lives and she is dismissing it?