• betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com
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    1 year ago

    This should tell you all something about the road you’re all going down with this guy. Salivating at the prospect of a mugshot got you losing touch with the political landscape.

    This guy’s political brand is “the establishment is corrupt and out to get me because I challenge their corruption, the media is in on it.” Every single thing you do to counter him strengthens him. You can’t mock him because he’s an unapologetic bufoon. And he has the perceived image of having tried to deliver on his promises and being blocked by the whole machine, seeing as he has been president before. ISIS destroyed, dollar a gallon gasoline, Israel having diplomatic relations with several Arab countries, this is a hard guy to beat politically, he has positioned himself nicely and branded himself just so that you cannot take his base from him no matter what you do, or what he does. “I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose a single vote” should make it very clear, this guy is 100% self aware, he knows exactly how he is perceived and he uses it as a strength.

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      1 year ago

      There are some things that work.

      One is talking about him in a situation or context he doesn’t get to have a say in. A court room setting or hearing can do this.

      Ignoring him on stage. This worked for Biden. Speak about him in the third person and disrespect him in his presence and he’ll become unhinged.

      Women of power, and especially women of color of power, having the last word or final say.

      If you know how to deal with narcissists, and lets be real, we’ve all got a few in our life, you can begin based on those strategies.

      Your point about the media is well taken and on target. The big thing here would be to figure out how to make him the side show and no longer the main attraction. The media machine is fickle and easily bored. The strategy would be to make everything Trump somehow boring, and to get something much more interesting on screen.

      Its some wag the dog shit, but if the D’s were clever they’d be trying to work something up.

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        1 year ago

        That’s another thing, what you said about the media. 5d chess bullshit aside, the guy knows how to spot incentives and frame himself in such a way that his opponents are incentivized to unwittingly help him. That’s the common current with all of this stuff. He knows they can’t stop talking about him or they’ll lose money. Even though they know what they need to do, they just can’t bring themselves to do it. They need the money.

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      He.s not getting stronger. Hus supporters think they are the only real americans and that everyone else doesn’t matter, but a majority of Americans want tobsee him behind bars

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          2016 was a fluke and democrats are too spooked to miss an election, seeing how they haven’t had a true defeat since then

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      Guess we should just let him do whatever he wants then.

      This comes across as “What about all the good things Hitler did?”

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        1 year ago

        No it doesn’t. They’re making a good point about how he manages to get away with shit. He basically took the Onion and said hold my beer, and it works. Unfortunately.

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          1 year ago

          I am taking issue with the first paragraph.

          There was little doubt his followers would do anything less than support him.

          This cannot be allowed to shake our resolve.

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            It’s not about shaking resolve. Why do his followers support him? It’s easy to say because they’re stupid, or because they don’t see through his bullshit or whatever. It’s because they have a need, something missing in the political landscape, something they think he represents and can deliver. If you ignore how he does this and why they feel the way they do and just dismiss them as racist or stupid or whatever you’re destined to fail, you’re missing a very powerful social and political undercurrent.

            You see the popularity of RFK within the Democrat party, it’s a similar thing. Everyone’s missing something, that something is candor, honesty, good faith work on behalf of the people. It doesn’t matter if the person is actually acting in good faith or not, if they’re able to present themselves as doing so by signalling that they’re not slimy opportunists who will promise anything for power, people will support them.

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              No, it’s not about resolve. Yes it’s because they are stupid, emotional intelligence is lacking.

              Fuck off with your RFK bullshit.

              Now I know you’re a right wing shill. Only the right media covers that tool.