• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    and occasionally something like diluted soap, lemon juice or apple cider vinegar.

    i.e. some sort of (proven) cleaning agent

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        3 months ago

        Like… oils and dander?

        What’s next, not washing your sheets because body soil is natural?

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          Uhm, no? That’s quite a leap you made there.

          For a normal human with no health problems affecting their oil production/smell, if you aren’t using shampoo/conditioner to constantly strip the oils from your hair, you very quickly stop overproducing oil.

          Bedsheets and pillows should still be washed regularly, since they definitely get covered in excess skin oils/grime/etc.

          But as long as you are caring for your hair in other ways like brushing daily and keeping it away from food/grease/mud/etc, using soap isn’t necessary unless you actually soil it - rinsing is enough to get rid of sweat buildup.

          Obviously, if you are working something like a trade job, its not possible to avoid debris, grime and other things and you need to wash your hair more, but an office job? Retail? Just brush and rinse regularly, and your hair will smell and look just fine.

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          not washing sheets is bad because they collect and hold body oils. Like your hair if you don’t wash it either.

          Which is why most people here are saying to wash your hair regularly…

          Likewise, you probably don’t need super aggressive detergent to clean your sheets, you could probably just get away with using steam alone, though you might want some detergent or surfactant for obvious reasons.

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        3 months ago

        Okay, but it’s important for everyone elseto know that they aren’t going years without using a cleaning agent like wild animals.

        You ever smell an animal’s fur? It’s not great.

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          If you are brushing them often, feeding them good food, and not letting your dog roll in everything, they smell a lot better.

          That being said, animals in general do have stronger smelling oils than humans - often for some evolutionarily advantageous reasons.

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            i think part of it is also that humans have evolved to be scent neutral (to our sense of smell), whereas dogs and other animals, obviously benefit from having some smell to them.

            Though you would think maybe the smell gene would’ve died in humans? Maybe it has.

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                  well it’s either wet, which means you should shower, because otherwise that shits going to be really annoying, or it’s dry, and it’s probably not a big deal anymore. Once you shower that shit is getting cleaned off properly anyway.

                  Just so we’re clear here, sweat is supposed to provide life to bacteria, that’s why it stinks.

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                    If you don’t use some kind of cleansing agent the bacteria is still there.

                    It doesn’t have to be shampoo, lemon juice/vinegar/rain water can kill bacteria because they’re acidic, certain scented and essential oils as well are antimicrobial.

                    The facts don’t change, though. You can’t just rinse your hair with tap water for a year and expect nothing to grow in it.

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                  If your sweat is growing things in 12 hours, you need a doctor or an exorcist.

                  Remember, many indigenous people across the world used steam to bath, as the steam and new sweat rinsed off the old sweat quite effectively.

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                    Moisture+Oil+Dead Skin=Bacterial Growth.

                    Full stop.

                    Which is why y’all are occasionally washing with lemon juice or vinegar or certain oils, because that actually disinfects.