Lemmy.world Admin Response to Defederation from Exploding Heads - Lemmy.world
lemmy.world
Today, we want to inform everyone that we have decided to defederate from https://exploding-heads.com/ [https://exploding-heads.com/]. We understand that defederating should always be a last resort, and individuals can certainly block communities. However, blocking alone does not prevent potential harm to vulnerable communities. After carefully reviewing the instance, reported posts, and multiple comments from the community, we have concluded that exploding-heads is not adhering to the Lemmy or Citizen Code of Conduct. Therefore, we cannot, in good faith, continue to federate with an instance that consistently promotes hate, racism, and bullying. Examples: https://lemmy.world/post/577526 [https://lemmy.world/post/577526] - Community Moderator Harassment https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/92194] - Systemadmin Post https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/90780] - Systemadmin Post https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/91488] - Systemadmin Post https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725 [https://exploding-heads.com/post/93725] - Community Moderator Post Again, deciding to defederate from an instance is not taken lightly. In the future, we will continue to review instances on a case-by-case bases. As for our community, please refrain from posting or commenting with hateful words as well. Arguing back and calling people names is not the solution. The best course of action is to report the posts or comments violating our server rules. Lemmy Code of Conduct https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html [https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html] Citizen Code of Conduct https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md [https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md] “We are committed to providing a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.”

Of the examples they gave I really think only Fisuxcel’s removed removed comment was ban worthy. And even then he’s not even a admin here and lemmy world could have just deleted his community.

Maybe Wiggle hards sodom and gomorrah reference post (of which I lold) But I mean that is a mainstream religious view whether they like it or not.

I suggest in the future admin’s keep their edgy content on alt accounts and in communities that pussy instances can just block.

In this way federation may work a little better.

On the one hand, fuck lemmy world. On the other hand, instances defederating hurts everyone so I do think it is our responsibility to work with them a little bit if they can be reasonable about it.

I take full responsibility for my Biden Pedo post which was featured. Biden is a Pedo but it was animated and perhaps I could have tagged it nsfw.

  • frogge@exploding-heads.com
    4·
    1 year ago

    Honestly I only found this place because of all the fuss. Would have preferred to use one instance for everything but the divide is only growing these days. I suppose it is what it is.

    • DungDefender@exploding-heads.com
      4·
      1 year ago

      Created an account here specifically cause of the announcement too. Seems like a lot of these servers are increasingly becoming echo chambers for the far left.

  • squashkin@exploding-heads.comM
    1·
    1 year ago

    oof I kinda want a free speech instance I could care less if they all defederate, hopefully one or a few will open soon

    these people would defederate anyway there’s no real appeasing them unless you’re hyperbolically to the left of bernie

  • Lovstuhagen@exploding-heads.comM
    1·
    1 year ago

    Right, it does hurt everyone when they defederate.

    But what can we do?

    People are going to do that.

    Just post in good faith and let’s enjoy our own instance and try to grow it. Maybe something will change in the future.

    • M Force @exploding-heads.comOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      It’s ok. The post about you is the ONLY post he made. In other words he purposefully created that account instigated a fight with you and who knows how many others to get a ban worthy response. That is how they operate.

  • markeuzu@exploding-heads.comEnglish
    0·
    1 year ago

    We are good neighbours. I dont see the issues. Lemmy world admins are bullied by their community into choices and thats completely up to them. If they want to be like a budget version of Beehaw we cant stop them. I also think that the people that dont want to deal with the influx of easily triggered people find their way here.

        • M Force @exploding-heads.comOPEnglish
          0·
          1 year ago

          I don’t have any problem with gays you guys are just to sensitive. It’s when you dangle butt plugs in front of children we tend to get mad. You are not special for liking pp in your bhole.

          Also I think admins keeping their extreme views in places other’s can easily block out is a very polite thing to do I don’t know what you are complaining about.

          Dessalines of at lemmy.ml keeps all his genocide denying post in a alt at lemmygrad.

  • Kapow@exploding-heads.com
    01·
    1 year ago

    I just had a look at the posts they referenced.

    Sadly I think it all comes down to politics. If those memes etc were about conservatives or conservative causes - I do not think they would have had a problem with them.

    They mostly came from the same community - they could have easily just blocked that community - either as individual users or as an instance - but they chose to go the extreme censorship route.

    I would just say be mindful when you post - your post can have consequences for all Exploding Heads users - good and bad.

    • M Force @exploding-heads.comOP
      01·
      1 year ago

      This can also be a rallying point. lemmy world has a lot of users. They just pinned a post about exploding heads and linked to it multiple times. I imagine your user count will now grow as a result. Other’s are right that many of the current reddit exodus are extremist left wing ideologs. exploding-heads is in a good spot to catch growth from other demographics.

  • bren42069@exploding-heads.com
    01·
    1 year ago

    let them shrivel and die in their echo chamber, never bend the knee to their struggle sessions

    activity pub is a bad and flawed protocol

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      1 year ago

      Do you think exploding-heads.com is an echo chamber? It seems like an absolute free speech haven would attract people banned from everywhere else, bringing togethe extreme viewpoints without any moderate or opposing views, causing an echo chamber

      • Outright7860@exploding-heads.com
        2·
        1 year ago

        I’m a pretty moderate person and I am here. The problem is that even holding classic liberal views can still be considered racist, transphobic, or whatever other ism. On most of these communities if you question anything that goes against a far-left view you get banned/deleted. That’s why I sought out a place like this. I want to be able to question and discuss things without being censored for it. I’ve found the majority of popular communities are all openly leftist in nature.

        • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          1 year ago

          Depends what you use as your scale of left and right. And that left right sliding scale isn’t terribly useful either. How far left you view something is more relative to your own position rather than absolute. There are a lot of places that accept genuine discussion, just not bad faith arguments and particularly vile speech. What were you trying to say that got shut down?

          • Outright7860@exploding-heads.com
            1·
            1 year ago

            I’d say as of recently the scales have heavily shifted. The meme that got spread around from Elon Musk I think highlights well what I am talking about when it comes to this shift: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144/photo/1 . I would say that like this meme is showing I was on the left in 2008, but now that same kind of thinking would now often get viewed as being on the right even though my views have never really changed.

            I support abortion and this would probably get me considered on the left. But I also strongly support people having the right to own weapons for self-defense. This opinion would in many communities give me the label of being on the right. Hell in many communities on reddit I may even get banned or have my comments deleted by saying something “pro-gun”. Simply being in favour of a more open dialogue that entails more “free-speech” and less censorship somehow also gets you considered a “nazi”. I see those very comments on the community you are coming from calling places that support free speech a haven for “racists”.

            The opinion that is most likely to get me banned/removed from places is any opinion that goes against any PRIDE related content. In my opinion it’s not even that extreme of a view. I have no problem with people who are gay, lesbian, etc… I also have no problem with people who would like to change their gender. The only problems I have are when this begins being pushed onto kids. And it’s not even specifically because I have a problem with people wanting to change their gender, it’s simply because I know the science indicates people aren’t good at making long term decisions until they are onto often their mid 20’s. And I know there are many people who regret having such surgeries at such young ages. I particularly do not support that parents can lose the say in these regards despite a child not even being 18 let alone 16. But that’s my opinion and it’s a pretty firm one in all regards. I don’t even think people under the age of 18 should be doing things like getting tattoos. But the problem is that I’m labelled transphobic because of opinions like these. Even though it’s the opinion held by the majority and is honestly a fairly rational one. It’s not even discriminatory or attacking anyone specifically, it’s just an opinion regarding a person’s competency to make long-term life-altering decisions at young ages. Yet for some reason it can get you labelled things, banned, and censored away.

            It’s for reasons like that why I need to come to platforms like this. Because I want to feel safe sharing an opinion that doesn’t align with the cult/tribe of many online worlds without getting banned for it.