I am a reddit refugee. Keep seeing that this is supposed to be somehow better than Reddit. As far as I can tell, it follows a similar format, less restrictive on posts being removed I suppose. But It looks like people still get down vote brigaded on some communities. So I’m curious, how it’s better?

  • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2113·
    3 months ago

    but there’s less hivemind.

    The hive mind here is far stronger.

    • anti-anything microsoft
    • anti-anything google
    • unwarranted “just install Linux” everywhere
    • NewNewAccount@lemmy.world
      126·
      3 months ago

      Agreed. Lots of reasonable opinions (not just my own) get downvoted here.

      I’ve never been a fan of using downvotes as a disagree button and the issue seems even worse here than Reddit.

      • mke@lemmy.world
        42·
        3 months ago

        The more I see how people use downvotes, the less I like them as a feature in general. I don’t downvote things anymore.

        • Everyone can upvote, which already brings the most popular content to the top. Why does the system need another dimension to it?
          • I often see unpopular comments at the bottom, with scores like +2 -9… The absence of downvotes wouldn’t make a difference in content ordering, because the previous comment is simply +4.
        • If I disagree with someone enough to act on it, it’s my rule to explain why. A minus one is nearly useless as feedback.
          • Then, once I’ve replied, what’s the point of downvoting? Everyone can read my thoughts.
          • Replies can be upvoted too, for people who think truth comes down to a battle of internet points.
        • If I honestly believe something is bad or harmful to the community, it should probably be reported, not (merely) downvoted.

        Downvotes as they are seem like outdated design on the human interaction level. They fail to iterate on years of knowledge gained since their inception.

        • aasatru@kbin.earth
          2·
          3 months ago

          I generally downvote in two scenarios. One is if someone is being a jerk, which is not necessarily enough for a report but always annoying. The other is if they are sharing misinformation, even if I believe they mean nothing bad with it.

          I think it has it’s place as a way to reduce visibility.

          And sometimes I enjoy getting downvotes - there are times I knowingly rub a group of people (generally authoritarians) the wrong way, and I’m happy to see the message is well received. ;)

          • mke@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 months ago

            I’ve taken to replying in both cases :^)

            When I have the time and energy, that is. A lot of my comments are just me adding what I hope is relevant context or correcting what I assume is accidental misinformation.

            I understand reducing visibility of “bad” content, I’m just not sure the tool is worth its negative side effects.

            • aasatru@kbin.earth
              2·
              3 months ago

              Yeah, time and energy is key. But I do notice quite a bit of these types of quality interactions here - it’s very much appreciated! :)

    • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
      33·
      3 months ago

      anti-anything google

      I hear that. Went through the technical reasons for the manifest V2 deprecation (if this is only to target ublock origin, why did they implement filter lists into the browser? Why does ublock origin lite work just fine?) and it got more downvotes than upvotes. Haters gonna hate I guess :))

      • mke@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 months ago

        Hey, I agree that MV3 brings benefits (such as better security for the extension ecosystem) and has technical merit, but it’s worth noting that uBlock’s main dev themselves said it won’t work as well. uBO Lite doesn’t work fine, it works. It’s also worse.

        And the same fundamental issue that affects ublock (the new API limits) affects everyone else trying to do the same job using extensions.

      • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
        42·
        3 months ago

        I get the impression most lemmy users don’t have a lot of lived experience. Everyone deals in absolutes, and is unable to recognise nuance.

        Most contentious issues have a range of considerations, positive and negative.

        • aasatru@kbin.earth
          1·
          3 months ago

          I completely agree with this observation. Generally if people get upset about my posts here it’s people I’m close to agreeing with, who just cannot fathom that I don’t agree with them on the details.

          I keep thinking about the People’s Front of Judea.

    • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
      37·
      3 months ago

      Because Microsoft sucks and Google sucks and if you install Linux there’s 50% chance it’ll cure someone’s cancer. Also if you’re at a bar and your pickup line is “I use arch” it’ll be like the fucking Niagara falls. If you’re into guys even their ass will go sploosh when they hear that line.

      What I’m getting at is that we’re just a superior being.