If the employees all take a week off, an organization grinds to a halt. If the bosses take a week off, it’s business as usual. The employees do all the labour, but because of their relation to the equipment (tools, software, machinery, what have you) they are forced to give away almost all of the value they created to the boss. The boss does nothing except own the equipment, and yet reaps almost all the rewards. The bosses of all organizations, collectively, put employees and prospective employees into a dilemma: give them most of the value you create, or starve. In many if not most industries, it is prohibitively expensive to expect somebody to buy the equipment to work for themselves, among other unrealistic expectations.
This fundamental relationship is a defining feature of capitalism. It cannot be done away with through the use of unions, and we can see this by looking at Sweden. Sweden still has homelessness, worker exploitation, value extraction, despite high union membership. The “success story” of capitalism is still exploitative, and again as we see in Sweden with the current dismantling of the social safety net, it is also temporary.
But I’m not here to flesh out all the details, for God’s sake read The Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels or On Authority by Engels, they’re not that long. I believe in you.
And who would create these companies in absence of drive to get wealth and what for? State? Collective masses intelligence?
Yes, if you take all the companies now to the people you will have an utopia… for a month.
You will quickly eat through this wealth created by free market and then slowly plunge into shortages as motivation to do anything plummets in absence of ownership. Then state needs to make all sorts of authoritarian cute things to stay communist as people become poor and disillusioned.
We have seen it.
It. does. not. work.
Intelligent management of greed to funnel it smartly is the key to any human society. Even china is now capitalist.
As I said you do not need to fundamentally change every aspect of society and hope for the best. There are tools for fair work conditions already.
You don’t rewrite whole code into some unproven prototype that mostly failed before. you just upgrade one component
You literally do not know what the hell you’re talking about
Then prove it, for me you don’t make any sense
If the employees all take a week off, an organization grinds to a halt. If the bosses take a week off, it’s business as usual. The employees do all the labour, but because of their relation to the equipment (tools, software, machinery, what have you) they are forced to give away almost all of the value they created to the boss. The boss does nothing except own the equipment, and yet reaps almost all the rewards. The bosses of all organizations, collectively, put employees and prospective employees into a dilemma: give them most of the value you create, or starve. In many if not most industries, it is prohibitively expensive to expect somebody to buy the equipment to work for themselves, among other unrealistic expectations.
This fundamental relationship is a defining feature of capitalism. It cannot be done away with through the use of unions, and we can see this by looking at Sweden. Sweden still has homelessness, worker exploitation, value extraction, despite high union membership. The “success story” of capitalism is still exploitative, and again as we see in Sweden with the current dismantling of the social safety net, it is also temporary.
But I’m not here to flesh out all the details, for God’s sake read The Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels or On Authority by Engels, they’re not that long. I believe in you.
And who would create these companies in absence of drive to get wealth and what for? State? Collective masses intelligence? Yes, if you take all the companies now to the people you will have an utopia… for a month.
You will quickly eat through this wealth created by free market and then slowly plunge into shortages as motivation to do anything plummets in absence of ownership. Then state needs to make all sorts of authoritarian cute things to stay communist as people become poor and disillusioned.
We have seen it.
It. does. not. work.
Intelligent management of greed to funnel it smartly is the key to any human society. Even china is now capitalist.
Right because worker cooperatives don’t exist. Go fucking read before you speak, liberal.
Why so angry? Did I touch some vulnerable place? Show me where it hurt you
tired of ignorant liberals parroting the same nonsense they’ve been taught from the cradle. No investigation, no right to speak.