“They [execs] just overthink it,” Vaughn told host Sean Evans “And it’s like, it’s crazy, you get these rules, like, if you did geometry, and you said 87 degrees was a right angle, then all your answers are messed up, instead of 90 degrees. So there became some idea or concept, like, they would say something like, ‘You have to have an IP.’”
The Couples Retreat star proceeded to use the board game Battleship (which inspired the 2012 film of the same name) as a meaningless IP example, saying it became a “vehicle for storytelling” just because it had a recognizable name. However, he noted that the “IP” when he got his start in Hollywood was the shared life experiences people have, such as the plot of his 2003 movie Old School, which saw friends (Vaughn, Will Ferrell and Luke Wilson) returning to college when they’re older.
“The people in charge don’t want to get fired more so than they’re looking to do something great, so they want to kind of follow a set of rules that somehow get set in stone, that don’t really translate,” Vaughn continued. “But as long as they follow them, they’re not going to lose their job because they can say, ’Well, look, I made a movie off the board game Payday so even though the movie didn’t work, you can’t let me go, right?’”
But the Bad Monkey actor still has hope for the future and predicted that audiences would see more films similar to his R-rated comedies again.
“People want to laugh, people want to look at stuff that feels a little bit like it’s, you know, dangerous or pushing the envelope,” Vaughn explained. “I think you’re going to see more of it in the film space sooner than later, would be my guess.”
Unfortunately, making comedies that don’t punch down and/or aren’t gross-outs are difficult - you need to have a top class concept and be able to execute it expertly, which is hard.
Personally, I find that !comedyplusgenre@lemmy.world is still a fertile ground for comedy - GotG3, The Suicide Squad, EEAAO, D&D, The Menu, Ghostbusters: Afterlife, Spontaneous, The Babysitter films, Free Guy, Boss Level, Violent Night, Day Shift, Boys From County Hell, etc. Although it could be argued that adding a genre element in means the comedy doesn’t have to do all the heavy-lifting, so it may be a cop-out.
Decent real-world set comedies of recent years include: the Banshees of Inisherin, Bullet Train, Guns Akimbo, etc.
Not sure where Jojo Rabbit fits but that too.
For action comedy, I thought bullet train was great.
It was a gem.
Thanks for reminding me of Banshees of Inisherin. Loved it.
Great film and not afraid to keep going into some dark territory.