• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    4 months ago

    , I really can’t remember the last time I actually expected any meaningful change from it

    I can personally guarantee there will be meaningful change if Trump wins the election

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      4 months ago

      there will be meaningful change if Trump wins the election

      True.

      I can also guarantee that voting won’t be enough to prevent that. Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes in 2016, and still lost the election. When the DNC is determined to lose an election through strategic incompetence, they’ll do it regardless of what we do at the ballot box.

      Voting isn’t entirely pointless, and we should do it if we are able, but it isn’t the silver bullet that liberals always pretend it is when they’re haranguing leftists online.

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        4 months ago

        We need both.

        Voting is the ground troops. It can take and hold through steady progress, and without it, any gains will be 100% illusory in the long run.

        Direct action is the air support. It can overcome obstacles which no amount of ground troops will do anything to win over; without it, the troops will just die pointlessly no matter their numbers.