• seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de
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    2 months ago

    Every historian better than half decent will also tell you that those two systems of government were closely related (totalitarian political violence).

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      True, but also they had significant differences - one was that German Nazis were fixated around race, while Italian Fascists weren’t.

      Second difference is that Italian Fascizm murdered much less people.

      You just can’t ignore that

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        Tell me you don’t understand the term “umbrella term” means, without telling me you don’t understand

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          I’m not aware of any mid 1930s National Socialists calling themselves Fascists, nor Italian Fascists calling themselves National Socialists.

          The “umbrealla term” seems to be invented later for… well why exactly?

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            2 months ago

            For right-wing nationalistic authocracities. How parties label themselves often contradicts with what they stand for

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        so are saying that there is no situation in with it is beneficial to be able to group these dangerous warmongering ideologies under a blanket term like right now when so many with “slight differences” that are gaining steam right now. it’s not the slight differences we care about, is the shared hatred and warmongering and nationalism.

        or are you just trying to defend Italian fascism as not being problematic?

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          “slight differences”

          First: I don’t believe difference between Nazi Racism and Fascist Nationalism is slight as these ideologies had vastly different numbers of victims, second: I care for factual representation of history

          it’s not the slight differences we care about

          You should care about them, because those who don’t know the history are bound to repeat it. Generalization of ideas is bad, it both prevents proper communication, and it’s a source of most horrible ideologies.

          or are you just trying to defend Italian fascism

          Or right, now I’m accused of supporting fascizm. You can’t even have normal discussion about these topics these days.