So, I’m playing BG3 with my brother in co-op and we did things the “proper way” by saving Arabella and then saving the other kid from the Harpies to find the secret entrance to the thieves hideout.
But in my solo game I found the hideout with a simple perception skill. I wandered inside and one of kids tells me I have the count of 10 to get out. Do I listen to a 10-year-old threatening me? No, I do not. They’re also a thieves ring so I couldn’t give a damn.
I leave and a guard comes up and says I’m to go to prison for “harrassing” children. No dialogue mention of literally having saved Arabella 10 minutes ago. No persuasion check except an impossible 20 die roll.
After failing that it’s either go to prison or fight. And am I going to prison because I found a thieves hideout in town? No I am goddamn not.
Fight starts and every NPC within 20-30 paces joined in so it’s about 7 on 4. Playing on regular difficulty so I kite them back a bit and then begin the slaughter. Several NPCs, including main character Wyll, gets killed. Then the shopkeeper joins in and I begin whittling him down. He begins screaming at me to stop (there no stop in combat?) or his friends will chase me down and kill me.
After everyone is dead I get a great stockpile of loot. However I am now down a follower, potentially a few quests, a shopkeeper I am always using in my co-op game.
I go looking for the kids to put them to death but they’re immortal and simply run away.
Thoughts? Why would the guard listen to a known thief? Am I missing a lore-friendly explanation? Is this a bug?
This stuff is all coded as Faction based and the Tiefling Children Thieves belong to the Tiefling Refugee Faction. Your character is outside of that faction and is breaking and entering as far as the Hellwalker guards are concerned.
It’s a little more complex than that in truth but if you view all guards in a similar light their actions make sense.
The “right” way to play is to kill everyone in the Grove anyway. Druids and tiefs.
Broke: save the grove Woke: destroy the grove Bespoke: steal the idol of Silvanus
Misread that as “Druids and TERFs”
If I find a TERF in this game, I’ll let them calmly explain how Wild Shape “Doesn’t make me a real bear”… well as calmly as they can when faced with a druid out of fucks to give.
Just going to say, not all the children in this game are immortal…
And Cloud of Daggers is great at chokepoints.
some are??
I thought killable child was an automatic AO rating
I don’t think the guards know those particular kids are thieves.
I just submitted and went to prison, (technically my friends character went to prison but who has the achievement) easiest escape in video game history.
Yes, the escape is pretty hilarious but I guess it’s the roleplaying principle of the thing, eh?
Also, you can go from the prison cell escape into the storage and loot the room after a skill check, although that can also end up in the guards coming (which is fair).
No persuasion check except an impossible 20 die roll.
The “friends” cantrip is basically a cheat code for any of those rolls.
Most of the time you’ll have a ~5 bonus or even more, so really you get 2 chance to roll at least a 15.
Just used guidance on my first playthrough, but “friends” mean a normal social roll is 20+ by the end of act 1.
The game doesn’t do a great job of communicating how good advantage is. Basically makes a 1 roll impossible.
My face when I critical fail a persuasion check with advantage.