In this video Bitcoin Mechanic explains how Monero’s main competitor Bitcoin Core became infected with Woke, and why that endangers Bitcoin’s long-term survival.

Some say “Code is Code”, but that is childish thinking, and not how the world actually works.

FOSS commits are political, and always have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSqm3EL0v4

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        So just for my understanding as I’m not a native English speaker, the whole Trump shit and follower are regarded woke?

        Edit: so, if I got this right (at least that makes the most sense to me), woke are people believing in conspiracy theories and think all others are sheeple?
        Like for example all the idiots using e.g. bleach and ivermectin to “cure” it, say masks don’t help and everything is a hoax.

        Is this right?

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          No that is incorrect. Woke are braindead morons who think everything is offensive and everything should be banned by the state that they believe is “bad”. Things like words, colors, symbols, songs, etc… They basically just believe anything that the mainstream establishment pushes no matter how stupid, like the covid hoax.

          The Trump followers are a different brand of retarded, they believe Trump is fighting the “woke” side while he pushes poison injections and other toxic big pharma products, which he profits from,on his followers and promises them “economic prosperity”, as if one guy can actually do anything for everyone’s prosperity.

          These are just two sides of the same demonic system pushing hate and division to keep people distracted and fighting eachother.

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            But the only ones, I’ve read about, banning things, because they find it offensive (like books) are conservatives again.
            How are they on a different side?

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              No one is banning books. The censorship is happening online carried out by big tech corporate platforms which are run by psycho woke leftists. Though they are just taking orders from bankers.

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                So the left wing is anti abortion and pro book ban?

                That doesn’t match with anything I’ve heard. Conservatives are banning books, because they seem to think books about LGBTQ will make their kids gay

                Following my original definition, you sound kinda woke

                Edit: and left wing is somehow in bed with bankers? Either I have a completely wrong picture of your country or you are very confused

                Ah, and I need to add that America doesn’t have a relevant political left wing. Everything is at maximum center or right wing. At least compared to Europe (and other countries)

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                  Sane people do not want LGBT pushed on their children. No one is banning books. As an adult you can read all the degenerate filth you want.

                  Leftist ideology is collectivism which was created by bankers to have useful idiots fight to consolidate power in the hand of the state which the bankers control.

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                  Not allowing filth in public libraries and schools is not book bans you clown. You do not push pornographic trash on children.

                  If I want to put some nasty trash into a public library it will be stopped, and rightfully so.

                  Sick scum can get those materials elsewhere. It is not banned you clown.

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      Woke is the opposite of inclusive. Anyone that does not bow to the insane LGBTQ agenda is excluded with hate and or violence.

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      Im more worried about the gigantic toll crypto takes on energy infrastructure.

      what exactly are you worried about? So long as we generate more energy (preferably via nuclear + wind + solar) who cares?

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        We don’t have that capacity right now and wasting energy on that, takes away energy from useful things.

        Also nuclear isn’t a good option long therm, and short therm it isn’t either.

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          We don’t have that capacity right now and wasting energy on that

          You have visual evidence of the capacity right now: is your light on or off? If they are on, we have the energy capacity.

          Also nuclear isn’t a good option long therm, and short therm it isn’t either.

          Nuclear is the best base-load option we have. What would you rather have? Coal?

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            Base load is a outdated concept and nuclear is much less scalable than most other sources, actually renewable energy is way better at scalability and reliability.

            And yes i have the annual reports of the companys that run “ai” (disproportionately massive increase in energy use) and the reports from the energy companies that busted thousands of crypto farms for almost destroying the grid in Eastern Europe and parts of Asia. So yes, even if you appear to not know shit about how electricity grids are run and how they work.

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              Hey, woa. Facts and knowledge? Gtfo here. You’re ruining the circle jerk. You’re supposed to stroke it, not choke it. Sheesh…

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      Miners have the ability to rapidly switch off in the event that power is needed elsewhere on the grid and then switch on again when that demand lessens in order to keep things more steady. Look up how Bitcoin mining is helping to electrify places like Africa, for example. In cases like that, it becomes more profitable for the power company to run lines to villages and when they don’t use all the power generated, the Bitcoin mine eats it. And it’s cheap to the Bitcoin mine and provides base demand for the power company.

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        I dont think any miner would turn off their rigs, and be alright they will be beaten in finding the next winning hash when the priority is making money and not the good of the grid.

        Your comment seems like youre constructing some incredibly specific situation where mining would not have these issues, when the criticism is aimed at mining as it generally is done.

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      Are you also worried about the US military burning billions of gallons of diesel per month, wasting trillions of dollars and murdering millions per decade?

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        Well, a world without military in General would be great but sadly we humans have yet to invent permanent peace and thus having a war capable military is necessary to protect the free world (all western allied countries) so as much as I’d like to them not wasting energy, its sadly necessary.

        Oh and i don’t give a shit about the people they kill, 99% of them are terrorists or paramilitarys from countries that actively try to disturb the peace of everyone because they are greedy or fanatics. I don’t like the innocent bystanders being killed by accident but in the grand total rather 10 civilians killed than 10 terrorists left alive to train more terrorists.

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          LOL, you are under mind control. The US military is used by criminal bankers to bully all nations into their corrupt financial system. They murder 99% of innocent people when they drop bombs on schools, hospitals, and critical infrastructure.

          Libya was a peaceful and prosperous nation which refused to be dominated by the bankers, so the US went in and destroyed it, now it is a hub for slavery and human trafficking, filled with radical extremists. Only the state benefits from terror attacks.

          Crypto will will dethrone these parasites and that is when peace will actually have a chance.

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          Oh and i don’t give a shit about the people they kill, 99% of them are terrorists or paramilitarys from countries that actively try to disturb the peace of everyone because they are greedy or fanatics. I don’t like the innocent bystanders being killed by accident but in the grand total rather 10 civilians killed than 10 terrorists left alive to train more terrorists.

          Wow. Just wow. Just fucking WOW.
          And then USA folks are surprised why some countries hate them…
          We are the free world and everybody who is not us/with us deserves to be killed…
          Holy shit

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              Im not even from usa.

              Well, then replace USA with “members of the free world”.

              You fucking moron.

              Yeah, ad hominem is the only argument I expected from you :)

              Also learn to read.

              Already know how to.

              Oh… You are likely Russian. Go die in Ukraine for daddy putins brain rott. And celebrate trump “ending the Ukraine war”

              I am Ukrainian. If I didn’t leave Ukraine before the war, I’d indeed likely be sent to die by the puppet Nazi regime controlled by the benevolent “free world”. I do hope I’ll get to celebrate Trump ending the war in Ukraine and saving hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives which you would like to see dead.

              May god have mercy on your rotten soul.

              That’s so fucking weird when a guy who doesn’t mind killing innocent people “Because people who are killed by/thanks to USA and allies are anyway all terrorists and bad people” tells me I have a rotten soul… Holy fuck, have you tried looking in a mirror?..

              Oh and your instance is just as old as your account. Its a troll farm.

              Yeah that’s usually how any discussion with the folks from “free world” goes like… No valid arguments, just ad hominems and “your account is new therefore you’re troll”. The level of stupidity is unimaginable.

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                BTW, a perk of having your own instance is that you see the reports that somebody sends on you.
                And it’s really funny seeing the constant (well, actually just 3 as of now, but as I’m active in the political discussions I’m quite sure I’ll collect a dozen of them) “misinformation/trolling” reports on myself, yet not even once, not a single person told me what is the “misinformation” that I spread or what exactly am I “trolling” about…
                Almost like all those people have no arguments to back up their claims and rely on emotions and ad hominems instead of using logic… Weird :)

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    People are political. If you do anything with more than one person you’re playing politics.

    We should be happy for all the allies, all the mutual interest, all of our fair weather fellows. Regardless of where they hail from, we’re all promoting the same

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        I think I didn’t use strong enough language. Open source allies are people contributing meaningful code and deploying real world systems.

        People who raid the organization to get their agenda into a behavior policy, code of conduct, into the mission statement don’t care about the project they are burdening with this political overhead.

        Drive by github committers who change language for some agenda are not contributing meaningfully to a project.

        These organizational parasites are, however, VERY common in any organization that has reach, or is open. The calculus of who to use for political ends is just a function of how much work for how much reach… walled off and closed societies are a ton of work, but a open source project is hungry for contributors/maintainers/documenters/cheerleaders so they are easy to infiltrate for the limited reach they might have.

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    one of the few good uses for cryptocurrency is for trans people to buy hormones for themselves and others without needing a doctor. advanced wokeism and crypto go hand in hand

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      advanced wokeism and crypto go hand in hand

      crypto is anarchistic and doesn’t care about your petty personal politics.

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            indeed. still, the CORE idea of cryptoanarchy (including monero) is to protect the rights of all the vulnerable and/or discriminated from those in power, who want to take them (the rights)

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      Bitcoin is apolitical, you can buy your hormones to your trans kids, meanwhile Russia or North Korea trade using Bitcoin.