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  • ein sof@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    well in pain meditation/placebo is kinda borderline pseudo science, it’s a mind over matter thing eh, it may effect or not, but if we take the route of protein interaction, madaling makita yung direct science sa effect nung substance sa dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, oxytocin and the likes.

    sa recreational, it’s tricky since it’s prone to abuse, we don’t know how to properly regulate it, so we are not ready for that, but when and if that time comes na okay na, I want to try it for once, para naman makaescape sa reality.

    • Dr. B@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      meditation is proven to increase pain tolerance, in placebo there’s this American Anesthetist named Henry Beecher, during WWII they ran out of opiate-based painkillers so before the placebo he thought of trying inducing heart failure on utterly wounded soldiers but before doing so he tried gaslighting the soldiers they are taking morphine but what he gives is just a saltwater drip, well the result is the same as taking morphine.

    • Dr. B@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I don’t know about the protein interaction you’re talking about, but if you’re talking about hormones able to bind to any cell in your body and have its effects, then I already knew that, learnt it from Huberman, meditation increases serotonin level which is the body’s natural pain killer so it’s not unscientific.

        • Dr. B@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          To be honest, I admit I can’t understand it, now if you understood it explain in layman’s terms, now if you expound this again,

          madaling makita yung direct science sa effect nung substance sa dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, oxytocin and the likes.

          you’re trying to confuse me since dopamine lang ang nandoon sa source mo sa link, and dopamine is a pleasure hormone so it could be more about pleasure and less or not about pain

          • ein sof@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 year ago

            im talking about in generality kaya i said taking “substance” as compare to meditation, the substance hack your receptor then your body produces hormones, in a way its like mind or bofy over matter din, kasi katawan mo pa rin mag produce ng hormones, but as i said di lahat, may mindset na ganun, so you need to take substance kaya ininclude ko na yung iban hormones and the “likes” when talking about substance that is taken.

            okay if your talking about phys, pain your right, but when its about mental pain you need some happy hormones.