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exploding-heads are infiltrating our discussions - lemm.ee
lemm.eeThe screenshot shows the recommendations from https://join-lemmy.org/
[https://join-lemmy.org/]. Still being federated with exploding-heads does not
mean the instance supports them. But it means that shit-heads are allowed to
take part in the discussions on their communities. They do intoxicate the
discussions we will have. They will attack minorities. Maybe you will not be
harassed by them, more vulnerable people will be. They are allowed to moderate
communities on these instances. Exploding-heads members actively guide young and
unknowing people to their hateful instance. They try to start discussions about
the holocaust https://sh.itjust.works/post/227268
[https://sh.itjust.works/post/227268]. They create communities only to crosspost
exploding-heads content https://lemmy.world/c/pharma
[https://lemmy.world/c/pharma] They take over discussions against them
https://exploding-heads.com/comment/132189
[https://exploding-heads.com/comment/132189] “WHY are vulnerable people joining
a decentralized system? Isnt this why you want a closed, not for public eyes
community?” This was a link to exploding-heads, because when someone copies a
permalink of a comment from them on another instance, it will be a link to their
instance. Are we building a place where vulnerable people are welcome and safe
or are we building a place where nazis are welcome and safe? They want you to
block them, they comment that everywhere. They block people who are in favor of
defederating them https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714
[https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714] When their opponents won’t see them
anymore, they can harass and recruit without being noticed. Blocking will not
solve the problem. They will spread even when you close your eyes. M̶a̶y̶b̶e̶
t̶h̶i̶s̶ w̶a̶s̶ n̶o̶t̶ d̶o̶n̶e̶ i̶n̶t̶e̶n̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶l̶y̶, b̶u̶t̶ n̶o̶w̶ there
is a post with a list of ‘health communities on Lemmy’ with the first entry
guiding to exploding heads. https://lemmy.world/post/396561
[https://lemmy.world/post/396561] It is still possible that some of the
mentioned instances do support them. The owner of sh.itjust.works says that
because of “free speech” all other instances would be allowed. It is suspicious
to me that his line is drawn only for lemmygrad
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474 [https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474]
>The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship,
and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal
resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and
discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that
this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly
considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said,
sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day. >I’d
like to also point out that the lemmygrad instance has far more blocked
instances than what is currently blocked here. Maybe you can create a post on
that instance to see what that’s all about and report back? At the same time
they seem to ignore the call and vote to defederate with exploding-heads
https://sh.itjust.works/post/433483 [https://sh.itjust.works/post/433483]. They
rejected to delete The_Donald from sh.itjust.works until they feared to get
isolated from the other instances: https://lemmy.ml/post/1467310
[https://lemmy.ml/post/1467310]. They where aware of The_Donald and ignored
early warnings. (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/266248
[https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/266248]). TD was more important to them than
keeping the only mod of their 4th biggest community c/patientgamers
(https://sh.itjust.works/post/291747 [https://sh.itjust.works/post/291747],
https://sh.itjust.works/post/388922 [https://sh.itjust.works/post/388922]) Since
The_Donald was removed, I did not find more racist content on the mentioned
servers. That is part their tactics. They act harmless but recruit to their
instance, attract likeminded people and chase others away. Discussions on
sh.itjust.works about such topics are very toxic already, soon they might be
able to do more harm. (My research is very limited, as i could not search for
all exploding-heads member content on other instances by entering their domain.
I know there are nice communities on sh.itjust.works.) What can be done? On
joinmastodon.org [http://joinmastodon.org] there is a Mastodon Server Covenant
with very few useful rules, one of them is “Active moderation against racism,
sexism, homophobia and transphobia”. https://joinmastodon.org/covenant
[https://joinmastodon.org/covenant] It would be a first step to implement these
rules for join-lemmy.org [http://join-lemmy.org]. At least instances that want
to be recommended on there should have to agree to that rule. More actions
should be taken now. Please make suggestions. Things will only become more
complicated. The next reddit wave is incoming. For those who did not already
know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance]
https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone
[https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone]
This is not the first time new platforms face these problems, do we really have
to repeat the same mistakes? -Share/crosspost -Contact admins
See longer post (not by me) there, if all is true then they should fall under both the spam and mass lemm.ee rule breaking defederation rules, both bigotry and abusive language, though not always in combination.
Also the covenant thing Mastodon has would probably be a good idea.
They initially allowed the_donald, and they only removed the community after receiving significant backlash from other instances
I think they may also not heavily vet registrations, but perhaps you could correct me if I’m wrong about this
One dude makes a community doesn’t mean the instance platforms Nazis. Let’s not spread lies now. Just gonna add the discussion link here
They platformed the community, so it is not lying to say they supported Nazis since that is literally what they did
i mean if it was one guy saying ‘nazis’ literally is lying
which is besides the point, because saying they platformed nazis because the single-user, non-issue community that no one even noticed except for the person that made a post calling attention to it, on an instance that allows anyone to create a community, was deleted after a day is so ridiculously misrepresentative of reality that its practically a lie anyway