In Portugal, while we use the French/English cards, we still called them by the old names (Spanish/Italian).
We call clovers paus (sticks, clubs), pikes are called espadas (swords), diamonds is ouros (gold, coins) and hearts are called copas (cups).
I always found weird how the names had nothing to do with the symbols themselves. Now I understand.
Huh, now that you mention it, almost the same for Greece except for diamonds being more like “checkered” and for swords-sticks being the other way around for some reason. Also always thought it was weird!
This surprised me when I was younger. Heart, diamond, spade, and club seemed so foreign to me. For the record, in Spain we call them copas (cups), oros (coins (literally golds)), bastos (clubs), and espadas (swords).
Also, the pictures used in the map are not the most commonly used ones here. this (top row) is what most cards use
Not sure if it is the same as Mexico, but the “oros bastos” set doesn’t have cards 8,9,10 but jump from 7 to sota (fancy lad or something like that), caballo (horse) and Rey (king).
This is similar to the set I was used to: https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=www.casino.es%2fimagenes/juegos/mus/baraja-espanola.jpg
Because of that we use different sets for different games.
Edit: the aces always had very cool designs, with the gold ace having the card brand on display.
Funny enough, in Portuguese, the names for the sets are
dirtydirect translations of the Spanish versions, but applied to the French icons. It didn’t make much sense to me calling a losange “golds”, or a heart “cups”, a leaf “swords”, and a clover leaf “sticks”.Edit: autocorrupt
Somehow this is the first time I’ve realized the symbols don’t match their names at all. Not really sure what’s dirty about them but it’s actually pretty handy to have all suits be called the same names in French and Spanish suits since both are widely used around here in Southern Brazil.
Not the previous poster but I think the “dirty translation” is because in Portugal some things weren’t translated at all (we use the actual word “copas” even though it’s not a Portuguese word) and others are translated differently (were the Spanish use “bastos” - clubs - we use “paus” - sticks).
Actually in France we have both design!
The second one is rarer but you can see it on the “Tarot de Marseille”
It’s a different set of cards, in this form there called “lames” (blades) or “arcanes” (arcana)
The set is divided in 4 colors also called family: “épée” (sword), “coupe” (cup, but think of it as the same type of cup as the saint grail), “bâton” (club) and “denier” (it’s an old coin)
This compose the 52 “arcanes mineurs”
In addition there also 22 “arcanes majeurs” called “atouts”
And it is usually recognize because it’s the base of the Tarot use for divination
But now it’s generally used to play the eponymous game of “Tarot”, a very good and very old game that me and my friend played a lot at uni
And with “both” from what it looks like you mean the french and italian styles.
Yes but also not only, we have MANY more design of tarot card, especially when considering “atouts/arcanes majeurs” as here a deck of tarot is an object of play but also an object of collection
Here an example
I heard about this, and I was excited to pick up a different style when I went to Germany. I got there, and all of the cards used the standard, international suits. No one knew what I was talking about.
You should have asked for bavarian cards/ bayrische Karten and they would have probably known. They are not widely used in the north though.
In Austria we’re almost always (= for everything except poker) using “doppeldeutsche” (double German) cards.
So, you would play Rommy or Canasta with the German cards?
We don’t play these games, we play others like Schnapsen or Hosn Owi instead
The German suite is most common in east Germany. west Germans use the french deck, or if they’re playing German card games they use the tournament German deck (which is just the french deck with different colours)
Huh? The German deck is also known as bavarian cards and they are very common in most of the German South. I’m from swabia and here you use different cards for different games.
Can you even play Schafskopf with the French deck??
Geographical east, not political East though, Bavaria very heavily uses the German deck. You don’t play Bavarian Schafkopf with a french deck. That’s just weird. I personally also find it weird to play mau mau or Schnautz (Schwimmen) with a French Deck. Doesn’t mean though, that we don’t use the French deck. You don’t play poker or rummy or cribbage for example with German cards. That’s equally as weird.
Everything is fine except for the Itallians.
