• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    UK should consider its own survival, instead of Russia’s, which is handling entire NATO’s microcosm pretty well.

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      1 year ago

      Preparing for disasters is part of a county’s survival. What are you even talking about?

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          I wouldn’t hold your breath. The UK has had a stable political system longer than most countries have existed, and has weathered much worse situations than now.

          Russia’s got form for instability. 3 revolutions in the 20th century, the collapse of the Soviet Union, a civil war, numerous wars with neighbours, 4 or 5 attempted coups that I can think of off the top of my head, plus the issues Russia usually has when transferring leadership. A new coup attempt isn’t a good sign.

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            UK has had a stable political system longer than most countries have existed

            When UK empire has been the biggest imperialist leech in human history, and leeched India (the world’s richest country back then) for 2 centuries, they carry a lot of money thanks to that. However, their empire fell long ago, and Brexit has been a joke, as has been Elizabeth Truss’ PM tenure to the point nobody even knew she was PM.

            I have no idea why you are trying to sell the idea of UK being more stable than Russia, a country with the strongest military, a supplier of gas and oil, and one that strengthened itself after all of NATO sanctioned them. Not to mention having strong relations with India and China at the same time.

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              Empire is irrelevant here, as it had very little bearing on the domestic political situation in the UK. Virtually all the British Empire became independent over just a few decades, at the same time that mass de-industrialisation happened domestically. Yet during this period elections still happened in the UK, power changed hands smoothly multiple times, there were no revolutions or coups, and even the IRA was at most an irritant. Despite the loss of empire and the rapid change in the workforce and makeup of the economic output of the UK, it still paid its bills, maintained a nuclear deterrent, integrated a large influx of ex-Empire immigrants, pioneered socialised healthcare in the West, and managed to grow its domestic economy at a reasonable rate almost all the way through. You’d be hard pushed to find another country that was as stable, given the specific challenges over that period.

              Brexit was a mistake, and recent governments have been terrible, but don’t delude yourself into thinking those are existential crises for the UK. The government will get replaced without much fuss, the UK will patch up its relationship with the EU even if it doesn’t rejoin, and the wheels will keep turning.

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              Russia, a country with the strongest military You’re having a laugh? On the weekend they appeared to be the second best army in Russia when up against a band of mercenaries.

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                Western citizens are cute clowns, because they think a private mercenary group would last more than a day if Russia became serious.

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          yeah, this is the norm for lemmy, it’s balanced political takes that are the new look as more of the general populace come in.

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          1 year ago

          You have had alot of pro NATO supremacist takes in the past 2 years. Why not highlight those instead of deleting your accounts?