Just 1.4% of cases were among people who received two vaccine doses.

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    3 months ago

    Fuck antivaxxers, unless there’s a demonstrated prior allergic reaction these fuckers should pay an extra tax just for being alive.

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      I don’t think that avoiding vaccines is a very good idea, but I only really care about it to the extent that it’s a risk to other people.

      With COVID-19, there’s a major risk in that a dangerous disease is rapidly spreading and there’s a major concern that hospitals may get overwhelmed, leading to death rates spiking. Not being vaccinated was a serious risk to other people.

      In this case, according to the article, only 1.4% of the people involved had been fully-vaccinated. Even if every single case was a result of an infection from someone who wasn’t vaccinated, virtually all of the people who are being hurt are either not vaccinated or only partially-vaccinated. There is no risk of hospitals being overwhelmed.

      It’s not zero-impact on other people, but that impact is pretty limited in this case.

      In general, my take is that people should be entitled to a warning, but if they still want to do something to themselves that is a really bad idea and the impact is pretty much on them, well…

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        , but I only really care about it to the extent that it’s a risk to other people.

        It’s almost always a risk to other people. I can’t think of a vaccine that is for a non-communicable disease. Not getting vaccinated means you can become a carrier or get sick and spread the illness. This means that herd immunity is lowered and people who can’t get the vaccine, or those who did but whose bodies didn’t adapt to it, are vulnerable to that person spreading it. Not getting vaccinated can mean you are liable (not legally) for other people’s deaths!

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        A chickenpox infection lingers in the body and can surface years later as shingles, which can be debilitating, especially for older adults. Having personally had shingles as a teenager when it’s not dangerous, I can assure you that you don’t want to get it because someone else refused to get vaccinated. When I had it, vaccines for chickenpox and shingles didn’t exist yet.

        I can’t really endorse literally forcing vaccinations, but penalties for not being vaccinated are ok in my book.

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        Yup. You got to suffer and itch for a week while bathing in oatmeal and coating yourself in calamine lotion.

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      Back in my day our parents had parties for chicken pox. The older you get, the worse it is.

      There was no vaccine when I was a child.

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    Wasn’t chickenpox one of the gelding diseases, just like measles? Serves those Antivaxxers well.

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    As someone from a part of the world where the medical consensus is against mass vaccination against chickenpox, it’s weird to see it discussed in the same terms as Measles or COVID.

    I got my youngest jabbed for it because lockdown meant they didn’t get it as a toddler like most kids I knew of growing up, when it’s usually an irritating but short illness and I was concerned they might somehow make it to adulthood without encountering it, when it actually becomes a lot more harmful.
    That was unfounded, since it’s going round all the young uns right now. Still, we’re both glad they won’t have to experience the itchy spots, although jealousy over friends who had a few days off school was expressed.