American political ideology as a whole has shifted left in recent years, but women are becoming even more liberal, according to Gallup.
The survey data, released Wednesday, shows that while the country remains largely center-right, the percentage of those identifying as or leaning liberal has increased over the past three decades, and is now just 1 percent under it’s all-time high.
Roughly 36 percent of adults identify as conservative, 25 percent as liberal and the rest identify as either moderate or unsure, according to the poll.
When broken down by gender ideology, women in the youngest and oldest age groups said they were more likely to identify as liberal.
Women ages 18-29 were 40 percent more likely to be liberal in 2023, a slight decrease from 41 percent in 2022 and 44 percent in 2020, but still higher than the 30 percent in 2013. Those ages 65 and older were 25 percent more likely to identify as liberal — a slight increase from the 21 percent reported in 2013.
Because if you’re even remotely educated on what’s going on, you’d realize republicans are just objectively evil. They are not even a political party. If anything, liberals are right wing, and republicans are just devil spawn.
That doesn’t explain gender divergence.
The party actively working to disenfranchise people who aren’t men is losing the support of people who aren’t men. That bit seems self-explanatory.
Do you have evidence of a conspiracy to revoke womens’ right to vote?
active marketing by republicans as clearly outlined by steve bannon does
Or maybe the divergence of male/female voting has nothing to do with suffrage. Maybe women value social safety nets offered by Democrats or maybe they value the Democrat foreign policy or maybe they just find Donald Trump more repulsive than do men. I can think of a lot of reasons that could explain the divergence that have nothing to do with someone (who, I don’t know) wanting to repeal a woman’s right to vote.
who, I don’t know
Steve Bannon worked on the Trump campaign and specifically called out disaffected, uneducated, terminally-online young men as an untapped market for Trump to capitalize on.
In the US parties are large coalitions of a lot of different groups an interests and not all of them mesh well together. This is true of the Republican Party and the Democrat Party. To write off the divergence as being explained by upset, uneducated young males who spend a lot of time online seems naive. The population of such males is small and they are an even smaller percentage of the electorate. They might make the difference in a tight election but they do not explain the significant divergence in party association between males and females. Plus the divergence on gender between left and right is not limited to the United States. It is a phenomenon found in many other countries. So there’s a lot more to it than a small demographic in a single nation.
Weird, it’s almost like electing the pussy grabber in chief turned women off from the Republican party. Strange how that happened. There’s also the whole Roe vs. Wade thing literally killing women.
Roe versus Wade is not literally killing women. Hyperbole of the century.
Yeah, and what do you call a high risk pregnancy that would normally have ended in abortion? Now women are forced to carry the pregnancy (viable or otherwise) to term putting their health and lives at risk.
Educate yourself on what’s going on before spouting nonsense.
There should be exceptions for when the mother’s health is at risk.
There are in many states.
And yet, doctors are still concerned because shit is too vague, so they just… don’t do them for any reason.
That’s on the doctors and I think it’s political in nature rather than as you described. I’m skeptical that this actually happens frequently.
That’s fine, but the facts don’t really care about your feelings.
I’m sorry but that’s in no way an objective source. On this particular social issue, that’s like citing Fox News. I’ll take some local news website or something that lists that sources or best of all the scientific study on the reluctance of doctors to perform abortions.
But I will not accept an NPR editorial on abortion as evidence.
Also that slogan is not as pithy as you think. Lol. Kind of makes you sound like a wine mom.
Oops that’s my fault.
Super-leftist trans woman here. I count as 16372938.33 womens, clearly skewing the data in our favor. Sorry everyone, so sorry
But in all seriousness, how could a woman perceive the conservative agenda and NOT become more liberal in response?!
We found the Spiders Georg of liberal women.
But in all seriousness, how could a woman perceive the conservative agenda and NOT become more liberal in response?!
Oppression kink?
Keep conservatism in the bedroom, I’m sick and tired of them just flaunting their kink in public all the time
hey when you’re erasing women can you please only erase the women for trump?
I need my copy-pasta again:
American “left”: maybe we shold do some student debt relief? Just a tini-tiny. If you don’t mind.
Rest of the world right: universal education, more funding!
Rest of the world center: universal education, state must provide students with everything(including housing and food) so they don’t worry about anything else other than learning, state must provide teachers with everything(including decent salary) so they don’t wory about anything else other than teaching, state must provide universities with all necessary equipment, buildings must be maintained in good condition(so ceiling wouldn’t fall on students’ and teachers’ heads)!
Who woulda thought that taking away women’s rights for their own bodies would have blowback?
They’re probably just about now realizing they should have taken away the right to vote first, the right to self-determination second. Rookie mistake.
These people don’t see women as people, so I’m sure they’re shocked.
According to the recent Financial Times article, it isn’t just the US. This is a global phenomenon so it is more than abortion.
Americans, mostly Republicans, are becoming more fascist.
Becoming? As in they wern’t?
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Liberal is still too far right.
It’s high time we had a strong labor movement in this country.
This poll seems to be focused on social conservative vs liberal, not economic liberal vs leftist
Why people oppose liberals to conservatives? Opposite of conservatives are reformists, not liberals.
Part of it is branding-- in the US the GOP got people to think of them as conserving (ie preserving) something, whereas if people got asked to describe a similar situation they might come up with something like regressive. Liberal generally makes sense linguistically, because it’s the same root as liberate, as in you’re free to do what you want.
So whether it comes from a brand or a misunderstanding it doesn’t really matter because conservative vs liberal is how hundreds of millions of people in the US use and understand the words, and you can’t tell people (especially at that scale) that how they speak is wrong because that’s not how language works.
Well fucking vote like it then.
Well conservatism, especially in the US, is extremely hostile to women, so that makes sense. It’s also hostile to a bunch of other outgroups. And the environment. And truth.
Conservative women confuse the hell out of me. Like conservative brown people.
I grew up in the South, moved to California. Started working with a Latino, who loved guns and idolized the South. Had a rebel flag and everything. He heard my accent and decided we must become friends. I had to very gently inform him that the people he idolizes would gladly tie him to the backs of their trucks and drag him to the Mexican border.
He later decided to throw in with the only other pro-gun group in California: Antifa/far left anarchists, and he seemed much happier with them lol
Pure anecdote but I think it’s representative of the bigger shitshow Republicans brought upon themselves:
My MIL voted for Trump in 2016 and was a lifelong Republican. Because she has two daughters and is quite a proponent of strong independent women, after seeing the reversal of Roe and watching The Handmaid’s Tale, she is now fervently anti-Republican.
After seeing that sudden paradigm shift in beliefs, it gave me a little hope. It also proves yet again that when Republicans actually get to implement the policy they want, it is deeply unpopular.
The American political system has done nothing but ratchet to the right for about a hundred years.
It’s so far right that people think liberals are left wing. That shit is center right lmao
That was my thought when they said X identified as conservative, Y liberal, the rest moderate or unsure.
How about none of the above since they’re all right of center?
Are you guys referring to the labels as applied to the Democratic party, or the people who self-identify as one or the other?
Because while I think it’s generally fair that the Democratic party is center-right (largely absorbing any half-relevant positions Republicans once had), self-identifying liberals especially of youth and women probably are leftist despite colloquially referring to liberal. In that respect I’d imagine most of these people are effectively Social Democrats by European standards; meaning a mixed bag of regulated markets combined with a strong national government and select nationalized industries (eg, medical insurance). Basically the Nordic Model.
Social democrats and market socialists. The issue is that Lemmy loves to insist on the idea that liberalism and leftism are not compatible, which is an outdated, reductive idea.
Liberalism is just the idea that individual liberty is critical to democratic agency. Myself, and basically every other contemporary leftist of consequence, would argue that democratic agency is also critical to socialism as well.
The only place where this is a controversial take are internet forums where “leftism” means “violent revolutionary fan service” and the participants are, in turn, educated entirely within this framework which exists basically nowhere in the academic mainstream.
The issue is that Lemmy loves to insist on the idea that liberalism and leftism are not compatible, which is an outdated, reductive idea.
Well to the previous commenter’s point, that may just be the result of two people using different definitions of the terms.
Plenty of people do consider their “liberal” beliefs to be incompatible with “leftist” beliefs as evidenced by how many called anybody to the left of Biden as “too radical” during the 2020 primaries. We can debate about the terms but at the end of the day those people have made it clear they openly acknowledge fighting anything to the left of whatever Biden is.
There’s a world of difference between “saying something is not viable” and “fighting against something”.
You voted against our interests. You and I are not on the same side.
I mean, in the sense that you’re on the side of the Russians, that’s correct
a mixed bag of regulated markets combined with a strong national government and select nationalized industries (eg, medical insurance). Basically the Nordic Model
So liberal in exactly the same sense American democrats are… People not liking that “liberal” is a negative in any circle left of those who consider themsleves that, doesn’t change what it means…
No, not necessarily. Social Democracy is one-step further left on the spectrum when considering a balance between Free Markets versus total nationalization and closed markets within the purview of a functioning Democracy. In essence, a truly mixed economy with a strong welfare foundation and regulator control rods for the markets. For all intents, the progressive-left of the Democratic party are Social Democrats while the mainline “corporate dems” are ostensibly Liberals.
Tankies dreams’ aside, markets & trade aren’t going away anytime soon.
That’s a lot of words to say you don’t understand what liberalism is… No mount of “strong welfare” counteracts support of capitalism and the oppression and inevitable fascism that comes with it. Because yes, necessarily.
The fact that you think me saying all of this makes me a tankie is a perfect demonstration of your lack of understanding of these terms and ideas (and/or of your unwillingness to challenge your bias and think outside of the parameters capitalism has set for you).
Cool.
How many environmental regulations were there in 1924? How many black people could vote? Child labor laws? Could you vote in primaries, or did party bosses in literal smoke filled rooms choose a candidate? Could states shut down newspapers and ban non-Christians from holding office?
If we go back about ten more years, women can’t vote, and Senators are still chosen by state legislators rather than a popular vote.
Why are leftists so quick to forget their successes?
For real; that comment was either made by a child, or someone severely ignorant of history
Liberals/democrats ARE left wing. Always have been. By definition the term is based on seating arrangements during the French Revolution. Democrats have always been considered left wing, just as republicans have been right wing. It’s just that now:.: the tankies think they own the term.
However- in reality… the FAR LEFT has distanced itself so far from the left wing that it doesn’t even resemble what it began as.
I’m sorry friend, any knowledge of history or political science is not allowed on Lemmy. You can choose either edgy leftist fan service or a series of escalating bans.
the FAR LEFT has distanced itself so far from the left wing that it doesn’t even resemble what it began as.
Yeah they’ve really gone off the rails with this whole “don’t block strikes” and “don’t support genocide” nonsense. /s
conservatives by their actions want women either pregnant or at home taking care of children, whether they are theirs or someone else’s, or both. they especially want them silent and totally reliant on their men since hod forbid they get paid for their work.
liberals want to provide equal rights and equal opportunity.
from my perspective, if you aren’t white, male, wealthy and christian, I don’t know know why you are a republican since the party doesn’t care about you.
Point to the effective alternatives that aren’t hell bent on turning women back into domicile slaves.
I’ll wait.
The country that no longer exists? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_parasitism_(offense)
Wierd noone mentined it in 15 hours.
P.S. I think goal of zero unemployment is shit, but you asked example.
2 days passed, you made post 5 hours ago. It seems you are rather impatient.
False. The entire political spectrum of the US has shifted right, and people haven’t changed a bit. They just noticed.
It seems to me that for the most part, the conservatives have become more extreme and as a result people are saying “I guess I’m a liberal now”.
There’s been recent studies that show Millennials (my generation) aren’t getting more conservative as they get into middle age. And while I don’t think I’m getting much more conservative, if at all, part of me wonders if it’s more that the party of conservatives is just outpacing us in their mad dash to the right.
Like, I definitely have some further-left ideals and some more moderate-left ones, but damn if the conservatives aren’t going full auth-right faster than I can moderate my views to even see where they’re coming from.
o can say as an elder millennial that not only have I gotten more conservative, I’ve probably gotten more a little liberal as the conservatives have gotten a lot more extreme.
when the overton window has skewed that far to the extreme right, you have rock ribbed hardcore conservatives like liz cheney, john boehner, paul ryan, george dubya freaking bush and ronald fucking reagan seem like centrists and liberals and this is not healthy for political discourse. and the media making every political thing an equivalency when it clearly is not makes it worse.
Does this poll support for left/right policies or just labels?
I suspect if you properly formulate and frame questions on political issues you’d end up with the US being far left.
Yep. I think the american public lacks words for what they align with. I also think most of the population would lean left if it weren’t for all the popaganda. But I think a lot…
Huzzah! More my own copy-pasta!
American “left”: maybe we shold do some student debt relief? Just a tini-tiny. If you don’t mind.
Rest of the world right: universal education, more funding!
Rest of the world center: universal education, state must provide students with everything(including housing and food) so they don’t worry about anything else other than learning, state must provide teachers with everything(including decent salary) so they don’t wory about anything else other than teaching, state must provide universities with all necessary equipment, buildings must be maintained in good condition(so ceiling wouldn’t fall on students’ and teachers’ heads)!
Then you’re in a partisan bubble. The US is not even close to far left, I don’t think you could even fake it with leading questions. There are far left people but there are a lot of far right and yet more center-right people too.
the terms mean nothing any more, by design.
They mean to say women don’t want their bodies regulated by men that don’t know a damn thing about how a woman’s body works. Like that fucking idiot Republican politician who’s also veterinarian and said he’s done thousands of ultrasounds on pregnant animals and that makes him an authority on women’s bodies. Like how the fuck do you make that jump in your head?
By equating women to livestock…
