• RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    Using AI to flag footage for review by a person seems like a good time-saving practice. I would bet that without some kind of automation like this, a lot of footage would just go unreviewed. This is far better than waiting for someone to lodge a complaint first, since you could conceivably identify problem behaviors and fix them before someone gets hurt.

    The use of AI-based solutions to examine body-cam footage, however, is getting pushback from police unions pressuring the departments not to make the findings public to save potentially problematic officers.

    According to this, the unions are against this because they want to shield bad-behaving officers. That tells me the AI review is working!

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      7 months ago

      I bet if they made all footage publicly available, watchdog style groups would be reviewing the shit out of that footage. But yeah AI might help too maybe.

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        7 months ago

        While I agree wholeheartedly, that is unrealistic due to laws. You can’t reveal certain suspects identity because for certain crimes, like pedophilia, people will attempt to execute the suspect before they know whether or not they actually did it.

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          7 months ago

          I mean police footage would be privacy invading as hell for victims and even just bystanders.

        • gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          A charge being filed against someone is already public record in the majority of areas in the United States, as well as any court records resulting from those charges.

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            7 months ago

            I forgot to add suspects that are minors, not positive but pretty sure they can’t be shown either.

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      7 months ago

      Exactly, and this also contradicts the “few bad apples” defense. If there were only a few bad apples, then the police unions should be bending over backwards to eradicate them sooner than later to protect the many good apples, not to mention improve the long suffering reputation of police.

      Instead, they’re doing the exact opposite, making it clear to anyone paying attention that it’s mostly, if not entirely, bad apples.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 months ago

        You’ve got it backwards.

        The phrase is “A few bad apples spoil the bunch”. It means everyone around the bad apples is also bad, because they’re all around and do nothing about it. It’s not a defense, it’s literally explaining what your comment says.

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          7 months ago

          I think that poster is right in this context. It gets abbreviated and used as a defense of there just being “a few bad apples” and they they just drop/ignore the reset of the phrase.

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    7 months ago

    If the police unions don’t like it, then it’s certainly going to be a positive step towards public safety.

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      7 months ago

      Yep.

      Ya 'all like surveillance so much, let’s put all government employees under a camera all the time. Of all the places I find cameras offensive, that one not so much.

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        7 months ago

        I sure hope you get your daily dosis of enjoying people’s misery watching the substitute teacher crying in the teacher’s lounge.

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          Cameras in a teacher’s lounge would be ridiculous but, in principle, cameras in classrooms make a lot of sense. Teachers are public officials who exercise power over others, and as such they need to be accountable for their actions. Cameras only seem mean because teachers are treated so badly in other ways.

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            Sure thing, buddy. They exert such power that they can barely make teens stay put for dice minutes without fucking around with their phones. So much power.

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                I checked just in case. Exactly as I said, most government workers have no power or means to exact it. You must be thinking of something else.

                Although I can recognize when someone has silly power fantasies. It is wild, man.

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      7 months ago

      Is this the kind of thing anyone could be happy about?

      Cops reviewing themselves, we know how that works out.

      1. Cops being reviewed by shitty AI.
      2. ???
      3. ???
      4. wtf
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        7 months ago

        Then again, when the police union doesn’t like something, makes me wonder what it’s exposing about them…

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    7 months ago

    Let’s not confuse ourselves here. The opposite of one evil is not necessarily a good. Police reviewing their own footage, investigating themselves: bad. Unreliable AI beholden to corporate interests and shareholders: also bad.

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      7 months ago

      It’s fine to not understand what “AI” is and how it works, but you should avoid making statements that highlight that lack of understanding.

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        If you feel one’s knowledge is lacking then explaining it may convince them, or others reading your post.

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          Speaking of a broad category of useful technologies as inherently bad is a dead giveaway that someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about.