TikTok sounds go silent as songs disappear from app::Videos across the platform have lost their audio in dramatic dispute

  • kava@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I think it’s a short-sighted move by Universal. Granted, maybe they know something we don’t (Tiktok getting banned soon), but the benefit in TikTok for artists isn’t necessarily the revenue but the promotion of their songs. They are short clips, usually no more than 15~20 seconds long. Lots of people use the songs in their videos, lots more people listen to a clip and want to listen to the full thing -> they go to youtube or apple music or whatever where Universal presumably would make a much larger share of the revenue.

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      8 months ago

      This should have far more upvotes than the easy “TikTok sucks” comments above. Whether you like the platform or not, it directly generates revenue for the musicians.

      Anecdotally, the amount of times my kids have heard a song on TikTok then gone on to Apple Music and added it to their playlist - then usually listening to other songs by the same artists - must be in the hundreds by now.

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      8 months ago

      Why must people yuck other people’s yum?

      I used to watch Tiktok a lot. It’s the primary way I heard and learned about left side politics. It has it’s uses.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah I genuinely see no difference between tiktok and other social media. Everyone on reddit/lemmy loves to hate on tiktok I never really got why. If it’s because of data collection they’re doing nothing any different than Facebook, insta, etc. Now X, that’s another story lol.

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      8 months ago

      Time enjoyed is not wasted.

      Of course, Tik Tok isn’t my jam, so it would be a waste of time for me.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t use TikTok, but this comment has it backwards. Life is too short to deny yourself fun for some kind of perceived superiority.

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        8 months ago

        Strongly disagree. Life is too short to spend your life on a toxic platform that rots your brain out

  • Adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev
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    8 months ago

    Universal Music Group has put their own greed above the interests of their artists and songwriters.

    They want to be paid?! What is this.

    … that serves as a free promotional and discovery vehicle for their talent.

    Yeah, cause artists (well, people in general) love getting paid in exposure.

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      8 months ago

      I know it’s become a meme, but exposure is a real tangible thing. If I get a clip of my song onto millions of people’s phone screens and I don’t pay for it, it’s basically thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dollars of free advertising.

      Just because some asshole on Facebook marketplace is begging for free commissions doesn’t invalidate the benefits you can gain from exposure in general.

      Having said all that, we are talking about Universal not some indie folk band. The same thing Tiktok is doing to Universal (paying a very small %) is exactly what Universal does to artists. I have very little empathy for either Tiktok or Universal.

      On the topic, I actually support Tiktok more in the sense that independent artists now have the means to go viral much more easily on a platform which inevitably leads to organic growth + success. Universal is a behemoth from an era that hasn’t fully died.

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    8 months ago

    Let me just say that I learned more useful and interesting things than I ever did on any other social media platform to date. I also haven’t had a Facebook insta or any of that ilk since 2015. Reddit, then TikTok, then here at Lemmy is all I’ve had since then.

    I found lots of videos giving me awesome facts about animals I never learned in school or elsewhere! (A opossum is naturally immune to rabies and is actually good for your wildlife area!)

    I learned multiple ways to make things easier on myself, some being: car maintenance, cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, acceptance of others and of myself, and laws and politics (that they then give you multiple sources for or show you the website or place they got their info) just to name a few!

    While I still get videos that I find funny, most of them have been actually beneficial to me which I couldn’t believe I had been hating on TikTok for so long because I thought it was just dumbass pranks or mindless drivel like “satisfying” videos or whatever.

    I’m not saying use it, because I haven’t in a few weeks, but it can actually give you really good and quality content.

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      Before I would get any itch to join the TikTok trend back when it started, I heard that the Chinese Communist Party was collecting some worrying amount of information on their user base, has been suppressing and/or blocking content that raised voice about the uyghur situation and did various nasty things. So I thought I would stay away from that until the situation improves. I have never heard a fraction of information about that happening. Did everyone just suddenly stop caring about how disgustingly TikTok treats privacy and user data (and how they suppress voices they don’t like), or did I just simply miss the bit where they stopped doing all those things?

      Because that’s one of the many reasons I haven’t touched it with a stick.

      • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        The vast majority of people don’t actually care about any of the issues you raised. They care more about fitting in with their friends and engineered dopamine hits.

      • NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        I don’t use TikTok, but a lot of the concern is just overblown China bad stuff (CCP does suck, but that doesn’t mean you have to be reactionary about everything Chinese).

        There is no direct evidence that the CCP has some back door to grab user data, or that it’s directing suppression of content. It’s just not a real thing. The fear mongering has been about what the CCP could force ByteDance to do, given their power over Chinese firms. ByteDance itself has been trying to reassure everyone that that wouldn’t happen, including by storing US user data on US servers out of reach of the CCP (theoretically anyway).

        You stopped hearing about this because that’s politics, new shinier things popped up to get people angry about. North Dakota or whatever tried banning TikTok and got slapped down on first amendment grounds. Politicians lost interest, and so did the media.

        Now that’s not to say TikTok is great about privacy or anything. It’s just that they are the same amount of evil as every other social media company and tech company making money from ads.

        • lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          8 months ago

          It’s literally just racism. People act like other social media platforms aren’t just as bad about privacy because they sell your information instead of giving it directly to the government.

  • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    The copyright shit does go too far sometimes, but if this means I can go into public without having to hear TT on 10 different phones around me at once, I’m a fan.

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      Right?

      Put on your damn headphones if YOU want to listen to some dumb shit. Stop with the ear rape, ffs.

  • Eddie Trax@dmv.social
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    8 months ago

    TikTok is garbage and I don’t care how much my mate tries to get me to join, every time he sends me a link to some portrait mode video I cringe.

    Everyone is a “content creator” nowadays. Which just makes the majority of said content complete shit.