I’m a cloud engineer working with a team across the US and a development team in India. My closest co-worker is my boss that brought me on-board and a quick 20 minute drive away (known him for a while). He’s the anomaly.
The next closest I believe would be 3 states away. If for some reason I was to be in an office, my day would literally be unchanged. It would be me working in the cloud (which isn’t location-dependent) and me on Teams/Zoom meetings with my co-workers.
If a job can be done remote, it’s dumb to require in-person work. This is doubly true if they wouldn’t see their co-workers face-to-face anyway.
I will never go back to in the office 5 days a week. I would take a pay cut before that.
I have 4 days from home and it’s heaven. I have a good salary too, although maybe I could get more if I was going for those consulting jobs where you sit at a customers office. But no way I’m ever doing that again.
I meet those consultants in team meetings and they are all dressed up, talking in a very “professional” way, acting like robots. I hope they are happy but I rather sit in my ordinary clothes at home and have a lot of free time before and after work. :)
Every federal worker just had to start thanks to Biden stripping the decision from individual agencies
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/white-house-cabinet-in-person-work/index.html
Republicans were the only ones asking for it tho, and obviously as soon as Biden did it, they stopped mentioning it.
There’s no reason to try and appease Republicans, because they’ll never give Dems credit, even if a moderate one does exactly what they want.
Or as we saw with the infrastructure bill
GOP: opposes bill purely for the optics
Dems: push it through anyway
GOP: “look what I did for my constituents”
WFH if possible should be mandated for environmental reasons
#WFH4Life
✊🏽 stay strong
So why do some bosses still feel it necessary to prolong the slow and necessary death of The Office? Beats me.
Because corporations paid for rental contracts for many years ahead, and also because a lot of local businesses depends on people buying expensive coffees and lunches to stay afloat.
This is why media is pushing for it, because the people who owns the media is also owning those restaurants and coffee places.
It always, always is about money in capitalism. I’m surprised this article comes from CNN to be honest. How did it get through the wall of groupthink.
It’s really about propping up the value of commercial real estate. If commercial real estate implodes, we would have another financial crisis.
This financial system is stable like a deck of cards…
Rock solid then, nothing to worry about.
Realized I wrote brick… :)
I hope more media content continues to call out the benefits of remote work while criticizing the nonsensical need to sit in a chair, next to other people that oftentimes don’t want to be there.
I go into the office so I can eavesdrop on my coworkers conversations looking for that elusive opportunity to provide critical input that nobody asked me for.
It seems it’s rarely brought up in these conversations, but another stupid thing about return to office is that we know that commuting is a major contribution to greenhouse gas emissions and particulate pollution. So working from home would not only be an improvement in work conditions, sparing millions of individuals hours of wasted commuting time each week, it would also be an easy way to reduce pollution and mitigate global warming.
Laws should be passed that mandate employees can work from home whenever it cannot be demonstrated by the company hiring them that being on site is absolutely necessary to do the job.
Because wealthy office building owners are pushing everyone to keep using the offices.
i love how they get to pretend that them gambling on buildings is somehow some incredible, high minded business scheme that we all must respect. they can’t just lose money can they??
After 3 years of working from home, I’m kind of enjoying my new job from office. We do have hybrid mode but I’m still new to qualify for that.
Haven’t been to my new jobs office yet lol. At my last one I went a handful of times and I did enjoy it. But it’s definitely not something I could do even a day a week. Long costly drive. Plus my home office is so stacked now it sucks to leave it.
I’m from India so my commute is just public transports and fair bit of walking.
I’m using it as a cardio exercise lol.
Yeah this conversation is a bit different if you can bicycle to work and enjoy it. Exercise, fresh air and social interactions are benefits here. The bigger issue is being forced to work on site when you don’t want to. Employers are even starting to offer two rates for jobs. On-site wage and remote wage. It’s the same work!!
The problem is compounded by shitty work standards. If I’m salary why do I need to work 40 hours a week minimum? Why do I have to start at 8am? Why do I have to come into the office?
whats there to enjoy with flex seating stacked in like a boiler room? i watch old movies and yearn for the days of cubicles, those entitled bastards hating their shoulder high dividers didnt know how good they had it
Well I’m a shy introvert so after working from home for almost 4 years I’m forcing myself to be around people.
And the office is in nice business park so feels nice to stroll through the campus with trees and fountain lol
There’s definitely something to be said for this. What I can’t understand, is a lot of these places are locked into long term lease holds. So the office is there whether they like it or not, through no decision or input or action of the employees. So why double down on bad decisions? Why not just treat adults like, you know, adults, and let them decide their best location for that day? Will some permanently stay home? Sure. Will some come into the office 5 days a week? Likely. Will some maybe come in for a change of scenery, or in certain situations for voluntary or collegial collaboration (which is supposed to be the whole point of this exercise, but notice the voluntary part)? Likely. And so what? Why risk pissing your employees off then, by forcing people in against free will?
