• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    Daily reminder that the IDF’s civilian casualty ratio is worse than America flattening Japan during WW2, including with two atomic bombs.

    The IDF is literally killing more civilians, proportionally, than an extremely racist state (as anti-Japanese sentiment is well-recorded in WW2 America) in a position of total war conducting an unrestricted bombing campaign with primitive 1-mile precision radii bombs, incendiaries, and literal weapons of mass destruction.

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      We depicted the Japanese as rats, demons and vermin in propoganda posters to dehumanize them, and we put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

      Not as fucked up as what the Japanese were doing to the Chinese and our POWs, not that it was a competition.

      War is so fucked up. Humans suck. Fuck the IDF and Hamas. I’m so sickened by this genocide.

      I’ve found this to be incredibly powerful. Trying to end on a slightly positive note…

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      The IDF is literally killing more civilians, proportionally, than an extremely racist state (as anti-Japanese sentiment is well-recorded in WW2 America) in a position of total war conducting an unrestricted bombing campaign

      Not to whatabout… but the Japanese were killing scores of conquered Chinese civilians long before the Americans got involved. Japan have engaged in xenophobic propaganda against anyone non-Japanese to justify their own nationalist expansionism.

      You make it sound as though Japan wasn’t a fascist country who signed the Axis/Tripartite alliance with Mussolini and Hitler.

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        I mean, my point isn’t that the Japanese Empire wasn’t horrific. My point is that, in WW2, with numerous reasons to be murderous and indiscriminate, the US still murdered fewer civilians in Japan, proportionally, than Israel is now.

        If we’re comparing Israel to the Japanese Empire, then Israel’s current crimes don’t hold a candle.

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        I don’t think the OP is attempting to make any commentary on Japan, and is trying to exclusively put into perspective the atrocities by Israel. Your comment distracts from the original intent.

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        I’m pretty sure the point is that the IDF has killed a higher ratio of civilians than the US did in a conflict where they dropped TWO nuclear bombs on population-centric cities

        Nobody asked if you thought they deserved it, but thanks for offering I guess

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          I get what you’re saying, but OP said America is extremely racist, but the Imperial Japanese was far more racist by the standards of the time.

          The US and Japan were racists before and during World War II, but the latter is more racist by the standards of the time and even by today’s standards.

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    It’s like this is the first war where innocents are being killed. Anyways, whatchu guys doing tonight for dinner?

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      First “war” where they’re this directly bombing hospitals, schools, ambulances, journalists, etc.

      Also first “war” inside a concentration camp where the civilians can’t flee from

      Not the first time this happens though. Last time we just called massacring an ethnic group inside concentration camp Nazism instead of “war”.

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        Maybe if they keep killing indiscriminately then there won’t be another generation to continue the fighting for another hundred years…win win amirite ;)

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          Good thing there aren’t any other Arabs out of Palestine to continue the fight. Like a bunch of people just blocking the entire red sea. Or a far bigger army just to the north of israel. That would be crazy.

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            Sounds like they should continue and expand huh LOLOL. Got the whole world and fighting over some land that isn’t worth a damn, Allah Akbar mah-fucka