Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.
A decade ago, a lot of folks would probably seriously consider this. Austin is a rad town and cost of living is cheaper than San Diego. Now moving to Texas could put you at significant risk if you’re a woman.
Apple, a company that likes to value diversity and inclusion, is apparently fine with putting its female employees in harm’s way for a tax break.
Of all the shit Apple has done, this is particularly disturbing.
Austin isn’t even that much cheaper and property tax in TX is heinous compared to CA.
austin is crazy expensive now. it was already starting to get that way when i lived there ~ 25 years ago.
and i’d pick the san diego climate any day over anywhere in texas.
all the tech companies should move to another smaller city in a blue state all at once. turn Salem OR or something into the next big tech hub
value diversity and inclusion
Bullshit.
They don’t give a shit.
It’s something of importance to their target demographic, so they play into it.
Sorry, values diversity and inclusion?
Yeah, if you include the slave labour that was literally chained inside their factories in China?
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Are they expecting for people to just pack their shit up, and go? We have to stop letting these companies pretend that all the workers are just meat puppets
Honestly, probably not. They probably want them to quit. This is a cost cutting measure that they don’t want to admit to publicly.
They want to force them to quit. Then they can move the office to Austin and rely on cheap illegal labour.
Probably not illegal per se but definitely cheaper and easier to fuck over: Texas labor protections are functionally nonexistent
This is becoming a larger and larger ask as the states drift further apart in terms of rights.
No one from California wants to move to Texas.
The Central Valley disagrees.
Sorry, coastal California ;)
You know, where the people live
They probably wouldn’t like Austin though.
That’s not really true. Most of California is very conservative, just not very populated. There’s probably a good number of people who at least would say they want to live in Texas, although they’d probably hate it once they realize what the state of California does for them.
Most of the…land? This is the verbal form of “map more red libs get owned”
Perhaps the first comment was worded poorly. It’s less populated in comparison to some of the most populace cities in the world. There’s a lot of Republicans in California who would probably say they want to live in Texas. There are just a massive number of people in California.
You said most of California is conservative. Which is just flat out wrong. If u had just left that incorrect statement out then the rest of that comment would have been OK.
Most of California, by land mass, is. Most, by population, is not. Those are both true.
People tend to think of California as an exclusively blue state, and I think that’s ignoring the dangers the right can cause who live there. They are there, and they want to assert themselves. I think it’s dangerous to ignore that.
Many of the conservatives in California are still liberal by Texas standards. I grew up in the central valley and it’s not nearly as hard right as people believe.
If they’re using this as a method to get employees to quit, then it’s gonna suck for the few that do move
Well duh, now they’ll have to live in Texas.
Its only temporary, those employees will be eliminated later under more lax labor laws.
The company reportedly told employees they can apply for other jobs within the company, though some doubt they’re qualified for other Apple roles in the city, and most don’t plan to move.
Sounds like it’s QA people. Which sucks extra hard cause that’s a much harder field to get another job in. If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. I bet a lot of people will make the move and it’s quite shitty and cynical from apple to move a team that doesn’t have a lot of options.
If they tried to move an engineering team to texas, they know they’d get told to get fucked
If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters.
Not with all the layoffs lately.
https://layoffs.fyi
Ffs tech workers need to unionize and fast.
Apple likes the labor laws in Texas that allows them to screw their employees over when they feel like it
And so begins (continues?) the enshittification of Apple. Siri is dumb as a bag of rocks. These people should all get raises.