I like the styling that makes it look like
We’re “slave free” chocolate
That was intentional, because they can’t guarantee that it wasn’t actually made by slaves.
Or made from slaves.
We’re “more or less slave free as long we don’t ask our suppliers too many questions” chocolate!
I’m sure that was deliberate
wink wink
It’s because even brands that go out of their way trying to exclude farms that use slave labor can’t guarantee that every farm they work with is slave free, because a lot of the time the slaves themselves lie about their info out of fear of losing the income or provisions, so it takes A LOT relative to how much checking can be afforded for each individual farm to 100% guarantee “these guys aren’t using slaves”
Those pesky slaves
At least they aren’t lying when saying “slave free” instead of regular slave free without the quotation marks.
They don’t put slaves into chocolate.
…yet
What’s with the quotation marks? Is the wink implied?
Not unique to capitalism, unfortunately. Simply a result of people being more aware of where our supply chains originate from - and what horrific conditions people toil under there.
Greatly exacerbated by capitalism, to the point that it’s fair to say it’s caused by capitalism
Also, capitalism makes us less cognizant of our supply chain, not more
Greatly exacerbated by capitalism
… is it? How so?
Also, capitalism makes us less cognizant of our supply chain, not more
How do you figure that?
It really begs the question that if our capitalism depends on slave economies, is it really capitalism?
I’ve shared this data so many times that I’m practically working for the UN! Anyway, there are more slaves now than there have ever been in recorded human history.
There are also more people than in recorded human history. The percentage of people who are slaves is considerably lower, and the definition for slaves is considerably broader.
It really begs the question that if our capitalism depends on slave economies, is it really capitalism?
Slavery reduces the efficiency of capitalism, which is reliant on a strong consumer class, but is not outright incompatible, unfortunately.
The UN taskforce report clearly states that there are more slaves now than ever before. Personally, I feel that this is not issue that can be reconciled with ratios and percentages.
Capitalism is inhumane. The profit margin somehow justifies the human cost. We have the technology to create an equitable and prosperous system for everyone. It’s possible if we all confront our habits of reckless consumption and greed.
And that they make up a lower proportion of all humans than at any point in recorded human history.
It’s a big problem but it’s one that people are putting a lot of effort into solving.
Is penal slavery counted? Because if not, you can add about 5 million from the US alone.
I’m sure the people in slavery are really happy that slavery is at its lowest level per capita in recorded human history!
But yeah it is such a big problem we need a lot of effort in solving. It’s not like you just can’t enslave people or anything. Gosh I hope people come up with something eventually because I can’t think of one dang solution to this big ol problem.
I’m sure people in slavery are really happy with a random someone posting bullshit in an effort to undermine actual efforts to free them.
We’re like 5 comments deep in a Lemmy meme thread about a recycled webcomic and you think I’m undermining actual efforts to end slavery? You’re actually stupid lol. Please explain to me where the “actual effort” is so I can laugh at you more than I already am.
That is not what that article is saying. All of their data is on modern slavery, not all of recorded human history. 1 in 150 people equals 0.67%. If you take just the slaves in the US and the serfs in Russia in 1860 (~4m and ~27m respectively) against the estimated world population in 1860, that made up 2.25% of the population. This doesn’t include any other slaves in the rest of the world at the time.
So yes, modern slavery is increasing and is an important issue. No, there are not more slaves now than ever before.
The UN taskforce report clearly states that there are more slaves now than ever before. Personally, I don’t think that this is an issue that should be justified with ratios.
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It’s funny, though.
I have to wonder what the ratio is for us transferring our bad practices to other parts of the world, to the other parts of the world playing catch up to us in the terms of the industrial revolution which saw us practice many of these same things early on.
I think of the coal mine workers in the 1600s in England and later on in the Americas. They were horrible situations to endure and that’s one *small example. Most of early life of those moving from the rural areas to the city was not kind either. Child labor was a big part of the equation along with slavery.
I’m sure there’s also a large part of the western world just transferring their bad for the local environment processes to these places too. I just wonder what the ratio is.
I have to wonder what the ratio is for us transferring our bad practices to other parts of the world, to the other parts of the world playing catch up to us in the terms of the industrial revolution which saw us practice many of these same things early on.
Or the continuation of long-standing practices in these regions. Slavery, after all, long predates the Industrial Revolution. We’re more responsible for encouraging the continuation than transferring the practice.
I’m sure there’s also a large part of the western world just transferring their bad for the local environment processes to these places too. I just wonder what the ratio is.
A lot of it is that we’re willing to pay profitable prices for raw materials, which encourages dependence on primary sector activities (extraction, like agriculture and mining) which are labor intensive and very vulnerable to exploitation. A lot of these slave-labor type undertakings work in a pretty machinery-minimal way, since that’s how the value of slave labor is maximized, rather than being advanced-but-polluting.