Wil’s got a point, guys.
Also, yes get a bigger fence, but also fuck the Prime Directive whenever you feel like it, apparently.
To be fair they wanted to execute a child for tripping. Fuck the Prime Directive in that case and fuck that planet. There should very much be a clause for protecting your own citizens provided they’re literal children.
provided they’re literal children
Yeah, you could just remove that part. There’s no sense on holding the non-intervention principle so high that you comply with every crazy request from the natives.
Well, no, it must be left in because if you stick with your part of “every crazy request” then it completely ignores the entire spirit and purpose of the Prime Directive. Starfleet isn’t the be all and end all of morality. Their decisions affect them and the people within it but they’re not “Team America: Space Police.” They don’t go around judging which laws are good and which aren’t. ESPECIALLY when that perspective comes from them and them alone. Different cultures have different beliefs. Ignoring them and imposing your own on everyone is imperalistic as hell and directly against what Starfleet stands for.
Adding a clause to children works for me because the only purpose is to protect the children. The Prime Directive is still able to stand and work between cultures but this way Starfleet is able to say “Our cultures matter too and our culture says children whos brains aren’t done developing shouldn’t be executed for a mistake.” Sure it’s still fucked up that they’d do it to adults but they’re adults. They made their decision and their decision led to them doing stupid shit on an alien planet, fucking around and finding out.
Not complying with requests is not the same as imposing your morality. Nopping out of the contact with some population because they believe your people must be killed won’t destroy their culture.
But then, yeah, the show would have to contain hard decisions, and would be completely different from Star Trek (at least the newer ones).
If you want to make a point you can do so without needing to bash newer Treks for absolutely no reason. Just tired of this petty behavior. I’m out. I’ve got no time for this nonsense.
They let Tasha Yar duel to the death because some dude had the hots for her.
Its definitely a case of “um, yeah, your application to ever join the Federation has been denied, pending you not having incredibly stupid laws”.
Which is a real thing in canon. Bajor’s application was put in jeopardy when they briefly reinstated a caste system, which violated Federation equality rules.
I’m surprised them being a theocracy didn’t disqualify them.
A theocracy with gods, who in fact exist. I guess that made the difference?
They’re actually a republic. The Vedek Assembly has a lot of influence, but they’re fully separate from the Provisional Government. And they only have that much influence because the vast majority of the population follows the Bajoran faith. Think of the Assembly like the Vatican - powerful when everyone cares (Pope during the Middle Ages), but virtually powerless when nobody does (Pope now).
They weren’t a pre-warp culture, the Prime Directive doesn’t apply.
Part of it states that while visiting other planets, following their rules since they’re host.
Wrong. I dunno why so many people falsely believe this. The Prime Directive applies to EVERY civilization. Not just pre-warp ones. By that logic, Picard wouldn’t have had a problem taking Wesley in that episode because those people had warp access.
I can definitely see him commenting like that. He used to regularly pop up on reddit as /u/wil.
Oh 100%. He’s a delightful man. Still so frustrated at the people who made him quit Twitter ages ago with the constant “Shut up Wesley” shit.
I also miss his presence on the internet, but part of what drove him away was the reaction to him promoting a block list that targeted trans folks
I’m sorry but that entire blog post is complete garbage and not worth even remotely paying attention to.
The majority of it is whining that Wil promoted a blocklist on twitter. That blocklist was originally made to block trolls and stuff but it ran out of support. One of the people working on it pushed their own which Wil supported. What Wil didn’t know, and what many other people who were sharing the tool has no idea about, was that the user had introduced personal blocks into that list and used it as their own thing to go trans people they had beef with. Wil openly admitted to not knowing this and trying to fix the problem in his own blocklist. The article then seems to bash Wil repeatedly for this fact while leaning on “Well he didn’t share the tools enough to fix the problem!” as the sole reason why Wil should be shamed for this mistake. He made a mistake. He was not actively targeting trans people or bashing them. Framing it that he was is the most disingenuous bullshit I can think of.
“However, the most recent dust-up with Wheaton wasn’t about trans specific issues at all but over his friendship with Chris Hardwick.” Also not a remotely valid complaint as the accusations against Chris Hardwick were made by one woman, was investigated, and found to be demonstrably false. I’m not about to shame Wil for being friends with someone who didn’t do anything wrong. So much so that I’m going to quote Wil Wheaton himself on that debacle because I refuse to put anymore effort into it.
I’m not going to apologize to people who were let down by me, because I waited for the facts to come in instead of rushing to join their angry mob. Chris was investigated multiple times and cleared of every accusation, by all of them. And that’s still not good enough for some people, who I also will not apologize to. If ANYTHING his accuser said were true, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Because fundamental values matter. I am not and will not be friends with someone who sexually assaults another person or any of the other things she lied about, and I’m insulted that you think I would be.
Let me be really clear about this: she didn’t exaggerate. She didn’t take things out of context. She straight up LIED. She made things up that aren’t true. She lied about multiple events that I and others witnessed. And there is so much more you don’t know about, because it was never made public. So I didn’t make a friendship exception, because there was no friendship exception to be made. After the facts came in, I stood with and supported my friend who didn’t do any of the things he was accused of doing. I stood by my friend who was cleared multiple times by multiple investigations. I stood by my friend who I had LONG and DIFFICULT conversations with, as I went through every single accusation with him, in my personal effort to get to the truth.
I know there are people who just don’t want to hear this, because they would possibly feel bad about being part of that angry mob, but that doesn’t make it less true: Chris was in a toxic relationship that was unhealthy and horrible. I had a front row seat to it. They were TERRIBLE together. They fought all the time. They brought out the absolute worst in each other. It was awful. All of that is true. And none of the things she said about him in her essay happened. That is also true. She made it all up, because, in her own words, she couldn’t let him “win” when they broke up, whatever the fuck that meant.
I’ve given you a lot more of my time than I wanted to. I’m just real sick and tired of this lie about Chris going unchallenged by people who paid attention to the lie and then either ignored or rejected the truth when that truth came out.
So to recap: Wil Wheaton is “problematic” for making a genuine mistake and for backing up his friend who did nothing wrong.
Yeah. Doesn’t seem that problematic to me.
i was very disappointed to read about his experience on mastadon as well.
wil was one of the reasons i jumped onto reddit very early on, he was around before subreddits even hit. its disappointing he isnt a part of this new nonsense.
People fucking suck. I hate humanity sometimes. Well, most times.
And this right here is why I don’t do Xitter or Tumblr. Getting this worked up over esoteric personal details of C-list podcast hosts is just not worth my time or mental energy. I’m glad there are people like you to keep things straight like you did here, but my god, these keyboard warriors have way too much time on their hands.
Litigating a stranger’s legal troubles isn’t their job. There’s literally a system for that already.
Exactly. I don’t want to do this shit but if I see someone lying or actively misrepresenting reality then I’m going to point it out.
This is a real post, for what it’s worth, and that’s Wil Wheaton’s real Tumblr.
lol remember when wil was bullied off the fedi?
they should start their own lemmy instance.
He was what?! If that’s true it’s a shame. We all hate Wes but hating on Wil is not cool at all.
That stinks. I could see him being treated very nicely around here, but maybe the same jackasses would just follow him.
No. What happened?
Took me a while to remember that one weird episode.
It’s funny I like Will about as much as I dislike Wesley, he’s seems like a great guy and often very funny
Yeah, as far as child stars go, he turned out more well adjusted than the vast majority it seems.
It would blow my mind to have Wil on Lemmy. I bet he’d be fun and all around cool.
The issue is he’d probably not say he’s Wil Wheaton. I could be Wil Wheaton for all you know. Maybe we’re all Wil Wheaton.
Sounds like something Wil would say.
So I wil(l) welcome us all!
Well, he’s “wil” on Reddit. I imagine he’d have a “public” account here too even if he prefers a private alt.
Where can I see these shapely twinks in linen thongs?
Star Trek: The Next Generation, season one, episode eight, “Justice”.