• Swordgeek@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    That’s good, because it’s a delicate and complex situation.

    For decades, almost any criticism of Israel was labelled as antisemitism. The media and government is finally starting to realize that Netenyahu is an extremely clever genocidal maniac who has leant on that belief as long as he’s been in authority.

    So we have Israel carrying out a policy of systematic genocide, and doing everything they can to conflate Judaism with Israel. Meanwhile, you have Hamas doing almost exactly the same thing on the other side of the battle - claiming to speak for all Palestinians while waging a war of genocide against Israel (although not nearly as systematic or methodical as Israel).

    Both of these groups have done everything they can to tie their religious identity to their geopolitical existence: Hamas <==> Palestine, Jews <==> Israel. In reality, there are probably a lot more citizens on the ground on other side of the conflict who just want to get up, go to work, raise their families, and live their lives without worrying about being shot, bombed, or invaded.

    So if Trudeau is trying to avoid stepping in the “We’re with Israel!” or “We’re with Palestine” camp, good for him.

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    9 months ago

    If our politicians and government cared as much about Canadians, as they do the citizens of nations across the planet, we wouldn’t be drowning in rising costs of living, pathetic wages and housing costs.

    Seems all I hear is foreign affairs and scandals, while Canadian citizens get ignored and drown.

    Edit: To the people downvoting or saying Canada doesn’t live in a vacuum and needs to help, I’m a Canadian who is living in the red, who’s wages aren’t enough to survive. Tell me how worrying about the middle east helps my day to day situation in any way shape or form? If I was wealthy or not drowning in debt I could be compelled to care, but currently that’s not my priority or problem. Tell me again about how my frustrations with the current financial situation of working Canadians is not the government of Canada’s problems, but a country in the middle east is.

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      9 months ago

      Canada doesn’t exist in a vacuum, neither does it’s issues.

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        9 months ago

        Right, but the every day issues of working class Canadians are outright being ignored. How can you take care of another nation when you can’t even feed your own people?

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          While you’re not wrong the liberals are actively waging class war, we sell weapons to the Israeli state and the IDF trains Canadian police forces and recruits children from our hoghschools to their army.

          We absolutely are not neutral in the genocide of Palestinians and the war there has direct social and material consequences for us. Working class people also can’t pretend global issiues don’t effect us or were truly being deaf, dumb and blind.

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            9 months ago

            Global issues do affect us. But at this current moment, we’re critically fucked in terms of day to day living and rising costs. It’s good to change properties and focus, depending on the needs of the country. It just seems that Canadian politics is all about foreign affairs and never about us here in Canada, we’re never the focus, we’re never the priority. It’s good to help others, but when you’re helping others, but you can’t even help your own, it shows how fucked properties are.

            It’s easier to get political points for helping a struggling third world nation, than to do something that helps the long term betterment of Canadians, so they stop helping us

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              9 months ago

              It’s easier to get political points for helping a struggling third world nation, than to do something that helps the long term betterment of Canadians, so they stop helping us

              When were the government ever helping " us " ?

              And its really not. Trudeau is taking a beating from pro Palestine and pro Isreali groups within the country for being deceive enough. Polievere also had his rally interrupted by those demanding a ceasefire.

              Temporary foreign workers being human trafficked to do jobs that passport holders here have is a major issiue here. The idea that somehow " Canadians " living standards and class war and foreign affairs aren’t directly related is nonsense.

              The liberals aren’t even really " helping " anyone in this conflict, they’re just arming Israel and suppressing pro Palestine voices in our country. The people frothing at the mouth to limit peoples speech here should concern you too.

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      9 months ago

      I'm a Canadian who is living in the red, who's wages aren't enough to survive

      Looking at federal vs provincial jurisdictions I can guarantee that your problems can mostly be resolved at the provincial level and the federal government has little to no power over your condition so you’re barking at the wrong tree.