Alternative Headline:
Small-brained individual blames others for the thoughts in his own mind
Listen, I’m not saying these communities aren’t an issue, but the first amendment is a thing (etc etc ad nauseum). We need to hold individuals responsible for thier conscious choices. Idc if someone convinced you to be a bad person, facts are you’re a bad person, and will be judged accordingly. In a fair and just trial.
Nobody should get off the hook for acting on things other said to do.
Who are you arguing with?
No one is saying his sentence should be less because the ideology he fell into turned him into a raging asshole.
The argument is that these communities exist to create raging assholes. It’s an indictment of the right-wing media ecosystem as a whole by reasonably associating it this person’s clear hateful actions. In other words, others should be on the hook along with this asshole.
Who are you arguing with?
When you start your reply by gaslighting me, you’re off to a bad start.
Intentionally framing my comment as aggressive against a group of people is insincere and childish in nature.
If your counterpoints can’t stand by themselves, and you feel the need to denigrate my comment via gaslighting me, then you’re also off to a bad start.
Also, the basis of your self proclaimed argument is entitlement. Gross.
Upvote for entertainment.
If you feel your comment was denigrated because I pointed out that you’re arguing with a strawman, then…yeah, I’m guilty. If that’s also gaslighting you, rather than you being wrong for arguing with an strawman, then…I suppose that’s my second offense. And you want to respond that I’m a stupid, entitled fool for thinking that people should be held responsible for the radicalization of others, then I anticipate my third strike that gets me thrown in conservative cancel jail.
Or you can just admit literally no one was saying he should be charged less for anything at all. I mean, it’s easy enough to just prove me wrong by quoting directly from the article. Where did they say that? I know conservatives aren’t really concerned about evidence and truth and objective reality, but if you’re going to convince me that I’m wrong, you’ll need to understand those things better than you understand the concept of “counterpoints” and certainly better than you understand gaslighting.
(Bullshit)
But that does not align with the movement to forbid dissenting ideas. Please reconsider.
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I’m really interested why Lemmy says there are -6 new messages? That many deleted comments or what?
As for the story, it turns out water is wet. Not really a surprise.
At the moment, lemmy is not great with comment integrity. If somebody deletes a comment (mod or the user themselves), the entire chain basically gets nuked.
So it looks like a conservative got embarrassed that they were supporting a white supremacist killer, and deleted their comments. Or maybe they got banned.
I’m new here- so this place is kind of like Reddit except less tolerant of political dissent? Do you have to be Democrat for Lemmy? I don’t understand.
it’s politically acceptable to agree with insane people who reinforce your own biases.
In other news, we still don’t have the manifesto from the transgender terrorist in Tennessee who murdered 6 in a Christian school. Funny what the media chooses to cover
Fair enough I guess. In my defense, it’s not like I intend to defend this man or his actions or white supremacy at large. All of those things are disgusting. I would just like to point out the double standard. No one seems to care when Christians or Jews are killed
No one seems to care when Christians or Jews are killed
What suggests to you that this is the case?
If it’s the manifesto release, i don’t see how that equates to attention on the subject. Various PDs are going to have different policies on the release of information.
And if it’s the media coverage, there was a shit load of coverage of Audrey Hale, so I don’t see why you’re making a complaint over lack of attention.
Yeah, go look at all that media coverage, half of it is about making sure we get her pronouns right and the other half is blaming Christians for pushing her to the extreme in the first place
There’s a clear narrative being pushed by the media and that particular event didn’t fit it. The entirety of the “coverage” was damage control
But it was covered, extensively so by both sides.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/28/us/audrey-hale-nashville-school-shooting/index.html
Looking at this article from a leftist source, in not a single spot do they go “this is her pronouns! Respect them or else! Wraaa!”. Nor do they blame christians.
I don’t think you have an accurate view of what leftist new sources were saying.
My brother in Christ, even articles like this are a far cry from this post’s “White Supremacist Killer” rhetoric. Look at these excerpts:
Hale’s parents, who lived with the shooter, said Hale was under a doctor’s care for an “emotional disorder,” Nashville Police Chief John Drake said at a news conference Tuesday.
Authorities continue to work to answer questions about who Hale was and the motive behind the school shooting. While the shooter’s gender identity is unclear, police told CNN that Hale was assigned female at birth and used “male pronouns” on social media.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/28/us/audrey-hale-nashville-school-shooting/index.html
A website that appears to be associated with Hale indicates that Hale was a Nashville-based graphic designer and illustrator who created logos and branding to “help tell a company’s story” and “bring a whimsical and light-hearted feel.”
Officials said that Hale was being treated for an unspecified emotional disorder.
Accordig to police, Hale’s alleged victims appeared to be randomly selected and the school and church building itself were the targets.
Hale’s mother, Norma Hale, said, “It is very, very difficult right now” for the family, before asking for privacy.
“I think I lost my daughter today,” she said.
A neighbor of the family told ABC News that Audrey Hale lived at the family’s home with Hale’s parents, who the neighbor described as “very nice” and “very religious.”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale/story?id=98166039
A website that appears to be associated with Hale indicates that Hale was a Nashville-based graphic designer and illustrator who created logos and branding to “help tell a company’s story” and “bring a whimsical and light-hearted feel.”
A police spokesperson told ABC News that Hale was assigned female at birth and pointed to a social media account linked to Hale that included use of the pronouns he/him.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale/story?id=98166039
Anything to avoid saying “Transgender Extremist Murders Christian Children”, which is what happened, end of story. There is a clear agenda from the media to demonize white straight men and elevate everybody else, regardless how heinous their actions
Anything to avoid saying “Transgender Extremist Murders Christian Children”, which is what happened, end of story.
Wording it like that is itself agenda driven. You don’t want accuracy, you just want the headlines to fit a specific agenda, one that derides trans people and plays towards the christian persecution fetish.
There is a clear agenda from the media to demonize white straight men and elevate everybody else, regardless how heinous their actions
There is no such agenda. Most shooters are white men, so most coverage is of white men.
Funny, I’ve been reading the good, the bad, and in insane from infowars for years, and I’ve for some unknown reason never felt the need to go kill people who weren’t white. Probably because this is just stupid and an an excuse from a childish adult that wanted people to feel bad for him because he got caught. Nice try.
Just because you aren’t gullible enough to be easily radicalized doesn’t mean the same applies to others.
So much this.
We can’t have a crappy education system and expect our population to be able to tell BS online from anything factual.
Unfortunately enough people in the USA are gullible enough that this particular person probably isnt the only one.
A well-educated population is harder to control or deceive.