• YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOP
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    Honestly, Christie’s statement has merit. Put these two in a debate cage match WWE style because it would be pure entertainment.

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      I think that might be the problem. That’s what we thought in 2015/2016. Pure entertainment, so the networks can’t deny the viewers it brings in, put these assholes in front of everyone 24/7, they end up fuckin fumbling their way into the presidency

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        If Trump steps on a stage he will be labeled a traitor and completely embarrassed in front of a national audience. His record is that of a twice-impeached, twice-indicted failure whose only accomplishment was doing what Mitch McConnell told him to do. He lost more American jobs than anyone in the history of the nation. He destroyed one of the best economies of all time. He allowed the worst pandemic in a lifetime to rage throughout the world on his watch. He really doesn’t have a leg to stand on for President. Owning the Libs and culture wars won’t win you the White House in 2024.

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    The republican party is such a shitshow. Way too many of them act like children, yet these are the people that their party members actively vote for.

    The guy the majority of them want in office has been proven to be a liar and a grifter way too many times, first as a D, now as an R. All he does is make threats, most of which he can’t even act on. Why the hell can’t they pick a better candidate? I mean, Christie is not much better, but he doesn’t throw temper tantrums like 45. I’d also bet that he’s more willing to be level-headed when it comes to policy. Hutchinson? Hurd? (Small chance on that one) But almost anyone is definitely better than Florida Man or 45.

    (Warning: Rant incoming. Skip to the next comment if you don’t want to read a wall of text.)

    I strongly feel a big reason why so many Rs vote for folks like 45 or Fla Man (any R offical, really) are because they are made ignorant by the same policies they vote for. Rs vote to cut their own education and consistently rebel against policies that would benefit them because their R overlords lie to them knowing their R education system doesnt teach to understand the system.

    An example is taxes. When Republicans talk about creating tax cuts or not raising taxes, they aren’t talking about their constituents’ personal taxes, it’s corporate America, but they frame it as beneficial to all. The vast majority of Rs don’t even qualify for those benefits, yet because they hear “tax cuts”, they assume it applies to them. Then they get upset at Ds when their taxes and prices still go up.

    On the flip side, when Ds talk about raising taxes, they’re mostly talking about raising uberwealthy and corporate America’s taxes. I say mostly because with fair taxes, a small portion of average Joes may see tax increases. But Rs try to make it sound like Ds are coming after the average Joe. The vast majority of Rs don’t qualify for a lot of D tax increase policies. Rs try to make progressive or fair tax plans sound evil when it would benefit the country as a whole and their own constituents.

    To compound the issue, it appears too many average Rs don’t understand how taxes work or where they go. Too many of them complain about bad education and infrastructure but refuse to pay taxes which are used to pay for those improvements. Their R governments cut all kinds of funding to infrastructure and other nation-wide basics and they applaud it because somehow not spending the money on it will improve it. It doesn’t make sense.

    Remember the whole “underwater basket weaving” thing? That general idea was promoted by a lot of Rs to get people to stop going to college and look down on education. They know a basic college education will show that a lot of R leaders have been lying to everyone and working against their own constituents’ best interests. And the anti-education propaganda worked. Rs consistently vote against their own educational interests. Ignorance isn’t bliss, it helps people grift others.

    I’d also go into religion, but that’s too much.

    It’s still wild to me to witness the effects of the dumbing down of America in real time.

    I’m not trying to dis average Rs because I’m not the brightest either, but at least I can see how R policies affect me and fellow Americans. I just wish they could be smarter and at least not vote against their own best interests.

    How about we turn this into “Americans vs the government and corporate America” instead of “Americans vs Americans”?

    Could it be because too many Rs can’t remember what freedom really means because the education system is horribly underfunded and censored thanks to the people they elected?

    Don’t get me wrong, a lot of Ds also have issues and can improve themselves, but that would be too much to include here and I’ve already rambled on like the idiot Grandpa Simpson I am. shakesfistatclouds.tif

    Sorry for the long rant.

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      Well said! I’ve looked deep into the minds of Republicans to try and understand why they believe what they believe and it comes down to lack of critical thinking capabilities, cold war education principles, religious indoctrination, and information manipulation. In short, grooming. They have been programmed to have faith in systems they don’t understand, to blindly do as they are told through propaganda reinforcement, and told to not be different in any way.

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        Grooming is exactly it. I probably could have saved a wall of text by just using that term lol.

        Religious indoctrination bothers me. The ways a lot of religious leaders perpetuate ignorance to keep people in their churches are ridiculous. Religious programming is a scourge to modern society. I understand some people might need it to help them, but too many use it as a crutch or cover up to keep doing shady things.

        Thankfully, you pointed out the lack of individuality that comes with a lot of those systems. It’s wild to see that people yell about freedom while forcing others to their own strict standards.

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        The most important thing we learned from the Dominion lawsuit was that the FOX network steered it’s coverage to appease the deplorables. So at least in this instance, it was the viewers radicalizing the network, not the other way round.

        I think it’s time we consider that capital-C Conservatives haven’t been tricked or manipulated into being awful.

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    Krespy Kreme is a smokescreen. Nothing he says matters. He is part of the kabuki act and doesn’t have any meaningful role.

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      Chris Christie represents the traditional / Moderate Republicans and does have appeal. He is playing the long game in which Trump’s baggage eliminates him from 2024.

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        I wish I could believe that, or that I had evidence of this happening. All the moderate Republicans are long gone, IMHO.

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          I agree for the most part, but Christie’s actions recently make it seem like some of the less insane republicans are at least starting to try to hit back at trump, if not the maga wing of the party.

          I don’t hold much hope of him swaying the brainworms that have infested the party, but good luck to him on that front. But I’ll gladly watch them go after their own if it weakens trump and his toadies.

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            Or try a different take on CC. He is playing the spoiler so Republicans can say, oh now TFG has been vetted in a trial by fire. It’s all an act is what I think.

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        How do you figure? He is quite literally the most unpopular governor in NJ history and abandoned the state to pursue a job in Trump’s administration.

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          You are not wrong, but not being popular in New Jersey doesn’t equal not being popular in the greater United States. The man is a pure ass to everyone around him, but that is a trait Conservative Americans like. They want a loudmouth ass who will scream at clouds. He has a long history of working with both parties and getting things done. Don’t underestimate him when Trump is knocked out. Can he beat Biden, doubtful, but he can win the Republican nomination.

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            Historically, the guy who can’t even win his home state doesn’t win the country. But I guess stranger things have happened.

            I will admit that he’s had more of a spine in terms of being consistent in his criticism of Trump since their initial “breakup.” Most other members of the GOP talk out both sides of their mouth, criticizing Trump one week and sucking his dick the next (Ted and Mitch come to mind first).

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    Omfg. No words…

    “He takes these boxes with him, he flies them up – they’re in New Jersey now if he still has them. They’d be in New Jersey because they go on vacation with him.

    “I mean he wanted to continue to pretend he was president and show these things to people and say ‘look what I still have, look what I still know’,” Mr Christie continued.

    He added that when he campaigned with Mr Trump in 2016, he saw Mr Trump’s staff carry around a box of important business-related documents from Trump Tower which would be placed next to him on his plane.

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    Chris Christie is touring the country doing a heel act for republican audiences and collecting plaudits from democrats in the process. Christie was still cool with Trump way after he didn’t put him in the administration. He just turning whichever way the wind blows

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    Definitely in character. Probably the most plausible explanation I have seen yet.

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    Could very easily believe this. He wants to play at being president at home. Probably gives orders to his toy troops lined up on the carpet.

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    No one noticed they misspelled presidential (presdential) on the first line of the article? It’s like literally the second or third word too, big proofreading failure, made me not even want to finish the article.