• SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    A lot of the people who ride these are actually handicapped themselves. So maybe they have a handicap license plate, but are trying to be considerate of other handicap people by not taking up the entire spot when they only need a little space.

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      1 year ago

      Still not great though because it would still be blocking access to the stall, effectively blocking the stall anyways.

      The bike parking there for example blocks a wheelchair lift if the vehicle doesnt want to back in.

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        1 year ago

        It would block it all the same if they parked in the spot. Assuming this person is handicapped themselves they must’ve figured “either I block the entire parking spot for everybody, or I block it only for those that need the loading bay area for a wheelchair lift.”

        I honestly think it’s meant to be courteous and it does work out that way for some if this person’s only alternative is to take up the whole space.

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          People in this thread have fucking brain damage or are just that committed to being recreationally angry.

          If you park centrally you remove the spot for everyone, if you park in the area intended for loading ramps you only take up the space for a ramp on that side. So either someone without a ramp can use it, or get this you can just reverse your car and the ramp is on the OTHER SIDE!

          It’s a no-win scenario, if the trike was parked correctly they’d bitch that he took up the whole spot for his tiny little trike. No good deed goes unpunished when reactionaries are involved.

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    This makes two bays unusable for a section of disabled people, which is why the car in the bay furthest away has had to park two feet away

    This is pure shitheadedness whether they are disabled or not, and whether it was done due to malice or stupidity.

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    I used to work with a Vietnam vet that had his leg blown off and he rode a Harley with whatever you control with your left foot somehow relocated. He told good stories about being part of a tank crew and ordered flaming shots at the bar, fun guy to talk to.

    Just saying, don’t assume.

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        So, he parks in the space, and he blocks any other handicapped vehicle, regardless of whether it needs ramp access or not.

        Or, he parks there, and he only blocks vehicles that need ramp access on the side AND can’t back into the space to use the ramp access on the other side.

        The way you want him to park, he is definitely blocking a space. The way he is actually parked, he is probably not blocking any spaces.

        Whether in the space or beside it, two more vehicles with side ramps can still park in those three spaces. Beside it, there is room for a fourth vehicle without a side ramp.

        The only way this guy is an asshokenisnifnhe isn’t actually handicapped, but being that he is on a trike, there is a good chance that he is.

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      Left foot is gear shifter. It’s an up/down button. Easy to relocate.

      But who the fuck cares? Vet, hero, dog-savior. Don’t park like a fucking asshole. Park in an actual spot or don’t park there at all. In this image’s case they are potentially blocking 2 spots, at least 1 handicapped. I hope he got 2 $500 tickets.

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        Yeah that’s fair. Tbh this is probably just a able bodied jackass, just throwing an alternate viewpoint out there.

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        It looks like there are 3 marked handicapped spaces. He is entitled to 1, leaving two, both with side ramp access.

        The way he is parked, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps, both using the other, marked ramp space (one pulling in, the other backing in). And there is still an empty, presumably marked space on the other side of him. It isn’t accessible to a vehicle with a side ramp, but the overwhelming majority of handicapped vehicles don’t need or have them.

        You want him to leave room for two other handicapped vehicles. He parked in a way to leave room for 3 other handicapped vehicles. And for that, you’re going to call him a fucking asshole?

        I think your sphincter is cutting off the blood supply to your brain. You might want to address that.

      • thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        The relationship is “you can ride a motorcycle (or tricycle in this case) and also be disabled, thereby being eligible to park there.”

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          1 year ago

          It’s a motor vehicles parked where one is not allowed to be parked, what does disability have to do with any of this?

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            I think what you’re getting at is “disabled or not, parking on the painted margin is prohibited,” which is correct as far as I know, but I think most people would think about it differently if the driver was disabled.

            e.g. Someone with difficulty walking wanted to exercise their permission to park there so that they could be closer to the entrance, but still wanted to leave a wide spot open so another disabled driver could potentially use it. Still wrong, but many people would perceive that differently.

            Again, not defending the behavior (and the driver likely wasn’t disabled, just a jerk)… But surely you see how their disability status is relevant in a scenario concerning a disabled parking spot?

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              No, it’s not relevant at all. It’s not a parking spot, handicap or otherwise. You just can’t park there, no one can.

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                I think you’re using the word “relevant” in an overly restrictive way. It can be relevant but still not justify the park job.

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                “Der, there are three spaces. How dare he park in such a way that 4 vehicles can fit in them?!?” – you, probably.

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          No one is eligible to park there. That’s the point of the stripes. There is a perfectly good space for disabled right next to where they parked if they have a placard/plate.

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            Parked in the handicapped space, there is room for two more vehicles with side ramps. Parked where he is, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps (both using the other ramp space, one pulled in, one backed in) plus room for a vehicle without a side ramp.

            Parked the way you want, there is room for 3 vehicles. Parked the way he did, there is room for at least 4.

            The only way he is an asshole is if he doesn’t have a handicap sticker.

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              There’s a reason they didn’t make it a spot, so vehicles with wheelchair ramps can actually function. Otherwise there’s not enough room and they’ll be trapped in their vehicle. So considerate.

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                Ok. Go look at the image again, and this time, stop and think about it.

                You are driving a vehicle equipped with a ramp on the left side. You certainly can’t pull into this space; your ramp will be blocked by the trike. But, you can still back in to the space, and use the ramp access on the opposite side.

                The alternative is that he takes the whole space, and you don’t have a handicap space accessible to you at all.

                And you are telling me that it is preferable for him to simply take the entire space he is entitled to take, rather than leave enough room for you to park as well?

                Are you serious right now?

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                  How do you know they’re “entitled” to a handicap spot? There’s no proof anywhere that the driver is eligible for handicap parking.

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      It’s not. Trikes are 99% of the time ridden by people who used to ride motorcycles but are medically incapable (handicapped) or too old to balance on a bike (and also probably handicapped.)

      Assuming this person is actually one of the above, they’re trying to reduce the amount of space their vehicle takes up by not parking dead center in the handicapped spot with a vehicle that doesn’t need the space, thus freeing it up for someone else who also needs it.

      The reason people are angry is because the cross hatched zones are intended as spacers to allow people with wheelchairs to access their vehicles via loading ramp. The thing is, not all handicapped people use wheelchairs (crazy, it’s possible to be handicapped in some other way) and even if they do, they could just reverse in to use the OTHER SIDE that’s not blocked.

      The trike rider is intending to be courteous by not taking up a whole parking space when they only need a third of it, thus saving the spot for someone who is handicapped and driving a car.

      Not good enough for Lemmy! They want him to park dead center so that no one can use the spot! Fucking morons.

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      I have a big motorcycle, two wheels, not three. I will try to explain.

      Visibility on a motorcycle is phenomenal. Not only do you not have roof pillars in the way, you’re sitting high enough that you can see over things (like you can in an SUV or truck).

      There is so much room for activites … in your traffic lane. I never have concerns about being too close to other traffic, construction barriers, curbs, etc.

      Performance-wise, if you want to experience crazy acceleration without spending supercar money, get a motorcycle. And a big motorcycle will handle high speeds on the highway just as well as, if not better than, a car at the same price point. (At least mine does.)

      Fuel economy. My big - nay, giant - motorcycle gets 33MPG, and that’s including occasional crazy acceleration I noted earlier. And my fuel injectors are dirty, too. On the down side, mine requires premium, but there are big bikes out there that will take 87 octane.

      I would never park like this, and I have had words with people who do.

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      It’s funny how these are motorcycles, but the trikes with 2 wheels on back are registered as cars

  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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    1. Why are those stripes yellow? They should be blue, to indicate it’s the access ♿ path for people exiting wheelchair accessible vehicles. (Or with other mobility issues, but specifically it’s wider to drop a ramp.)

    2. There’s only one way I can surmise to excuse this: If the rider is legit disabled, maybe they use 2 crutches or something, and when they arrived some non disabled asshole had taken the actual spot. While they were inside asking the store owner to call for a tow or ticket (because it’s private property it has to be the owner) the asshole left.

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      1. That’s not universal. In some states, only the handicap symbol is marked blue, with the space and restrictions marked in yellow. I think all-yellow markings - including the symbol - are still allowed in some jurisdictions. I prefer the blue marking for everything, but the yellow may be accepted here.

      2. If he is, indeed, handicapped, he is entitled to use one of the three spaces, leaving two spaces with ramp access. However, parking in the ramp access, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps to use the other ramp space, and there is room for one more handicap vehicle without a side ramp. He has made room for 4 vehicles instead of 3.