Anybody who was on the internet before this wave of mass corporate sponsored censorship can see this argument is a complete red herring. All kinds of speech are censored now and the internet was an objectively better place for free exchange before. Now civil liberties are being curbed in the name of protection yet again mainly because people can’t cope with the fact that people disagree with them on stuff.
What about you say one thing but mean something different?
“It’s not racist to be worried about immigration” - basically an excuse to be racist towards immigrants
Or
Or a recent one from the UK, “I agree with Just Stop Oil, but I don’t think they’re going about it the right way”
- When you basically just want JST to go away so you can drive your SUV around in peace
I don’t disagree with your point about those who want the protestors to go away (and of course about the first dogwhistle), but can we please not compare just stop oil to immigrants, or the treatment they get to racism? The two are not comparable.
they are going about it the wrong way tho.
No, they fucking aren’t
We have less than 10 years of comfortable life before climate change fucks us up. It is already too late to stop it
We should be rioting in the streets
A) source? B) its not about not liking the protest, its that they are actively making it worse by letting cars idle. sure they can turn the engine off but most wont ofc. they are making actual climate activists look bad. i beleive a lot of these protesters in the news are set up by the oil industry and the like for that reason.
Regarding idle cars- that’s not the point. The point is that if it’s more inconvenient to take a car than public transportation/WFH, people will take public transportation or WFH
There is no such thing as freedom of speech outside of the context of government reaction. You cannot face consequences from government for protected speech. Out in public it’s fuck around and find out. For corporations it’s all about their bottom line, Twitter is not public space, reddit is not public space, this instance isn’t public space (someone owns the server it’s on.) It’s their decision what is allowed to be said on their platform. They are not government, they have the right to censor to protect themselves or to set an environment they desire for their product/service.
Freedom of speech as an aspiration for society doesn’t exist, and rightfully so. There are consequences for your actions, speaking words is an action, so if your actions are speaking hateful words then there are consequences of that action, as in my reaction to your hateful b.s
You can’t say “black people are literally destroying society” and then cry “FrEeDoM oF SpEeCh!” when someone gives you shit about your terrible opinion. Downvoting is not censoring. You have a shit opinion and I have an opinion about your shit opinion. If you spew hateful rhetoric about people you can’t hide behind FrEeDoM oF SpEeCh when people confront you on that hateful rhetoric.
Nobody thinks downvoting is censoring. But what is undeniable is when baby mods spit their dummies out on Reddit and block people who don’t deserve it under some bullshit interpretation of their rules that isn’t a good thing. Bad actors are at the controls and are making the decisions for us.
